i downloaded one from that site that worked pretty good. I don't remember what it was called though (old computer) cam grabber maybe!?!? I still want to figure out how the hell you can view peoples cams without permission. My buddy can do it on his computer and he won't tell me how. The only thing he said is there is a messenger only hack floating around for yahoo and msn7.5, that version has been causing problems with my computer so i'm guessing' it's possible.