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[lilchit]

i have an overweight friend who claims to want to loose weight. hes 52, 6'2" and about 400+ pounds.

hes always telling me things like "all i had to eat today was a bologna sandwich". his belly is too big to do things like have shoelaces.

hes in good health (other than the fat) i mean his blood pressure, heart rate, cholesteral levels, etc.

he doesnt get much exercise besides mowing his 1 acre lawn twice a week.

ok, heres the deal. id like to help him out, but dont know where to start.

my questions are:
can he possibly be this fat eating only a bologna sandwich nearly every day?
can i hurt him by suggesting a clean, low carb, no sugar diet?
will he have a heart attack if i get him to exercise?
if he does exercise and diet, how much can he possibly loose, and how fast?

 

[coolcolj]

he'll loose weight just walking 3 times a week. His bodyweight will make walking pretty intense as is !
STart with 5 mins a session working his way up to 30mins. A walkman or mp3 player can make things easier.

He'll need to start drinking more water and eat more raw nuts, fish oil and just eat more frequently. Chewing on raw nuts throughout the day helps.

once he gets down to 200 lbs then he can start to get more precise.

Sandwich = white bread = starchy carbs = insulin spike = fat rentention.

low food intake = low metabalosim+ insulin= lots of fat gain!

 

[gymrat]

YOu have to educate him on proper nutrition. If your friend can controll his diet, he'll lose wieght.

Do a search here on elite, and you'll find alll the diet you could ever want.

But the bottom line is that your friend has to make the effort to lose the wieght. You could give him all the adnice in the world, but if he doesn't use it, he'll never lose teh weight.

 

[big calvin]

u know im in his place, 400+ pounds 6' . and like man its alot harder then pepz think. i mean yeah i cheat but its just u get use to eating crap and crap and crap. i started working out agin hardcore 5 days per week. and i still eat crap. but u know what its been like 7 weeks and people are sayn like i look taller or something. so u know if i added cardio and moderate eating habits then alot could happen. which im doing now. today really. lol. tell him to start eating protion but what ever he wants. water and some cardio. now i would say low min. but like i do cardio like 2-3 times week for about 45 min. but thats cause i have someone to talk to(cousin) and time goes by. by the way tell him to put baby oil on his legs for the chafing um and u know later take out junk and add healthy foods. simple as that...atleast i hope. get his hormones check also. cause i had no idea but i had low thyroids, now take meds. diabetic, now take meds. liver enzymes very very high, still but workn. test levels low. workn on it. so just tell him to take it easy and dont stress it.

hope i helped.

 

[lilchit]

big calvin,

thanks for posting!

he had a total blood work up done in high school. they told him thyroid, and etc were all normal.

so, out of curiosity........would you appreciate somebody going through your house and getting rid of all the tempting foods you shouldnt have..........and stopping by to make you get on the tread mill every day............and basically being your body policeman?

i know this has got to be hard for him. mostly because hes always been heavy, and doesnt think he has a real option. and he feels "so far gone" that hed have to loose a hundred pounds before hed look like hed really accomplished something.

i really care about this guy, and im so tired of him feeling awful about himself. i want to be there for him, you know?

 

[CongoJoe]

There is no way you can help him out unless he wants to help himself. you can throw out the junk foods and he can easily replace them. what you can start to do is try to motivate him. let him know that losing weight is easy. its fun. and he will probably be eating more food than he is now. so dont let him get scared of the word 'DIET'. try to get him out for walks at first, then slowly increase the excersice to the treadmill at a faster pace. and let his body adapt to 'working out'. if he's been checkled out by the doctor and his health isnt deadly then he should be fine walking the treadmill. let him know that once a week he can have all the cheat foods that he wants. or even a couple meals a week instead of cheat days. get him a few motivating video tapes such as 'body for life'. i think you can even get it free from the website( well before you could, so you might want to check it out). its a really motivating tape. let him know about MRP's. keep him full and will definately shed the weight off. once he starts losing weight and feeling much better he will realize how important it is to live a healthy lifestyle. he will never go back to his old ways. as far as him eating just a bologne sandwich? its possible and his meabolism has slowed down so much that his body will always hang on to the fat he has on it now. so try to be a motivator and dont scare him away from the word 'diet'. its a lifestyle that he can easily adapt to. there is no better time for him to start now. and as much as i hate to say it, he better start soon or it can be too late. good luck.

 

[big calvin]

i would not do that..taking his food and "making" him do stuff. if he's anything like me thats just gonna make your friendship lost and make him eat more out of speit. trust me i have gotten into many fights because of this method. the best way is to let him decide. if hes not ready dont push him. he has to make the decision to change. there is no other way. my cousin has been tryn for about 4 years to get me to lose weight that ay and it has not work other then me fighting wit him. now he is leaving me alone but still works out wit me and i want to do the change. all my hard work in the gym. all the muscle im building i cant see cause of the fat. once your friedn starts to see a cut in his bicep he will love it. i know i feel my arms all day now..lol

and tell him im 450lbs.+ and there is no i have to lose 100 atleast. i know me at 400 lbs would injoy life so much more. i dont go out because of what people might say or something(dont want to get into it too much) but im starting to go out more and even going to the gas station is like s trip for me. not cause i cant walk(i can lol) but the emotional situation it puts on me . not fitting in small spaces , if it gets pakced my pulse gets real high. its weird. there is a lot of emotional stuff he is going through . its not just lose weight and thats it. try and get him to see someone. anyone. someone to talk to. but not u cause he wont open EVERYTHING so it has to be someone he doesnt know and wont see outside that room.

i love watching bodybuilding tapes! thats a great idea! it gets me real motivated seeing the disapline these guys have with food amazes me. and i begin to want to be like them. get all the tapes u can or if he has a certain BB he like( i like watchn lee priest cause he is the funniest or dorian).

that should help alot. also seeing strength in the gym is a real motivater. when i hit numbers i thought i would like 4 weeks ago i feel great! just does alot for self essteam.

 

[lilchit]

thanks, everyone, for posting.

youre right. i wont try to MAKE him do anything. hes got the right to have the body he wants. and i really dont care what he looks like. his embarassment is what im feeding on. that, and having to do all his chores he cant do himself (a big motivator for me, im a busy girl).

mostly, i was worried about hurting him by giving him bad advice. ive heard you shouldnt loose more than 2 pounds a week, and that kind of thing. (what if he went on a low carb, high protein, no sugar diet and exercised and lost 10 pounds a week? would it kill him? what would happen?) and it scares the bejesus out of me that he might have a heart attack on the tread mill. id just have to shoot myself.

i guess i need to determine if he wishes hed wake up one morning in a new body, or if he wants to diet and exercise. and he may not want to tell me, huh?

all of the advice is much appreciated. ill put it to good use.

 

[argent]

If you have him diet and do cardiovascular exercise in moderation, he will more than likely be fine. Get him to stick to a plan for 3-4 weeks. After that, he will see his progress, and be excited to do another 3-4 weeks. And so on.

 

[big calvin]

If you have him diet and do cardiovascular exercise in moderation, he will more than likely be fine. Get him to stick to a plan for 3-4 weeks. After that, he will see his progress, and be excited to do another 3-4 weeks. And so on.

very very tru! agrea 100%.

but remind him that even if he dont lose weight after the first month or so its ok just work on it. i remember when i would be loseing weight i would feel real good and get stricter and like eat protein shake in water with flax and like in the morning i would have oats and on the side shrimp(not mixed..lol but at the same meal) i got crazy like a bodybuilder and shit) but after the 3rd month i stoped loseing weight and got disapointed and started to binge.. so make sure he knows its part of the game..u wi some u lose some.