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so its the 2nd time around

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Doing my second cycle which will be test enth and dbol. I have a couple questions. I've never used dbol but many people say it gives you water weight. Will this weight dissapear after the cycle? THe second queestion is if i used 500mg of sust a week for my first cycle would 500mg of enth be enough. I'm not sure because sust is a mixture of different tests. Any input? Oh yea.....I will also be running liquidex.
 
natedogg03 said:
Doing my second cycle which will be test enth and dbol. I have a couple questions. I've never used dbol but many people say it gives you water weight. Will this weight dissapear after the cycle? THe second queestion is if i used 500mg of sust a week for my first cycle would 500mg of enth be enough. I'm not sure because sust is a mixture of different tests. Any input? Oh yea.....I will also be running liquidex.

Since your running Liquidex you shouldnt get alot of water retention, if any. With your test amount i think .5mg/ed would suffice, however if water or gyno symptoms aggravate bump it up to 1mg. Dbol water should subside within a couple weeks, if any softness remains 2 weeks post cycle, consider it a possibility that you gained some Est. fat deposits, which is not attractive at all, but again Liquidex is very effective at blocking test-est conversion so i think you will do fine.

As for you second Question i will leave it to people who have run test cycles. It seems however that Eth, is often chosen over sust simply because it builds up quicker and leaves the system faster too; which makes clomid timing optimal.

Good Luck man.

ps. run Dex post cycle along clomid, it will help you restore htpa faster.
 
thanks for the response Japanese machine. See this is the thing i have some thia dbol already, but wasn't sure if i wanted to use it. I know i want to run test because it worked well for me the first time around. What other AS would help me lean out. Fina sorta scares me to tell you the truth. EQ takes to long to kick in and is associated with anxiety (which i already have). Again i know diet is vital while bulking or cutting. I'm trying to gain the most lean mass possible without fat. Thanks again any input?
 
natedogg03 said:
thanks for the response Japanese machine. See this is the thing i have some thia dbol already, but wasn't sure if i wanted to use it. I know i want to run test because it worked well for me the first time around. What other AS would help me lean out. Fina sorta scares me to tell you the truth. EQ takes to long to kick in and is associated with anxiety (which i already have). Again i know diet is vital while bulking or cutting. I'm trying to gain the most lean mass possible without fat. Thanks again any input?

A really great way to avoid fat when trying to build as much lbm as possible it ALA with all your meals. I go by the rule of 10mg/for every 1g of carb, so 100g of carbs = 1000mg of ALA (1g). Although during a cycle 500~ with every meal woud be suffice,(rather costly at high dosages) and if you have R-ala it has been said that you can get away with even less 200mg~

If your not sure about all the wonders that ALA can do, do a search, you will find shitloads of info.

BTW dbol has a 4 hour halflife which makes it a great substance to "bail out" on if side effects aggravate. With Liquidex dbol sides should be suppressed, however there is no guarentee that i cant happen. I would just stay cautious and run it; start with 5mg every 4 hours.

You answered your own Question, diet determines bulk/cut. a rule of thumb is to not run aromitizing steroids if your trying to cut, but that all changed when estrogen conversion blockers arrived. with Dex at .5-1mg you will gain quality mass. No doubt. (assuming your diet and training/rest is precise)
 
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