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so is valentines day like easter but without the colored eggs?

you gonna start a rachel valentines day thread or wut MR


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Is easter like ground hog's day except easter is associated with a bunny, and well ground hog's day is associated with well ... a ground hog :confused:
 
Both holidays are completely made up and have no resemblance to their origins anymore. Is that what you were going for jon?

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Both holidays are completely made up and have no resemblance to their origins anymore. Is that what you were going for jon?

Cheers,
Scotsman
Welll, not quite ...

Starting with Groundhog's day, that corresponds to the pagan greater holiday of Imbolc, traditionally a celebration of the Goddess Brigit and marking the true beginning of spring. This is when you really start to notice the lengthening sunlight (which is where the whole groundhog/shadow thing comes into play I think).

Valentine's day seems to correspond most closely to Lupercalia which I've only just learned about myself. In ancient Rome it took placed from Feb. 13 to 15 and had to do with the celebration of the she-wolf that suckled Romulus and Remus combined with a fertility festival. Like I said, not common to the standard pagan wheel of the year, but since there are a pagan reconstructionists out there :whatever: they could be trying to piece together what they can of the ancient pagan Roman celebrations. I actually know someone who participated in a Lupercalia ritual this past weekend and he was expecting it to be uh, well, let's say passionate and leave it there.

Finally, Easter corresponds to the pagan celebration of the lesser holiday, Ostara. It's primarily an astrological/astronomical holiday, being the spring equinox, and also marks the midpoint of spring (May 1, Beltane, marking the beginning of summer). I've explained about the bunny and eggs on the forum before (folks can look it up on Wikipedia if they're curious).

Basically the later religions subsumed the pagan rites and festivals, the same way they took over the holy places (when they couldn't destroy them, like they did with the groves of the druids) and turned them into churches. Since people were already partying on those dates, the leaders of the churches just came up with an acceptable reason for the people to be partying. When you kill the leaders of a faith, and destroy the shrines and altars to its gods, and that path doesn't have a lot of written information to be stored away (the ancient Celts were a great one for that), in just a very few generations things get lost and forgotten.
 
Welll, not quite ...

Starting with Groundhog's day, that corresponds to the pagan greater holiday of Imbolc, traditionally a celebration of the Goddess Brigit and marking the true beginning of spring. This is when you really start to notice the lengthening sunlight (which is where the whole groundhog/shadow thing comes into play I think).

Valentine's day seems to correspond most closely to Lupercalia which I've only just learned about myself. In ancient Rome it took placed from Feb. 13 to 15 and had to do with the celebration of the she-wolf that suckled Romulus and Remus combined with a fertility festival. Like I said, not common to the standard pagan wheel of the year, but since there are a pagan reconstructionists out there :whatever: they could be trying to piece together what they can of the ancient pagan Roman celebrations. I actually know someone who participated in a Lupercalia ritual this past weekend and he was expecting it to be uh, well, let's say passionate and leave it there.

Finally, Easter corresponds to the pagan celebration of the lesser holiday, Ostara. It's primarily an astrological/astronomical holiday, being the spring equinox, and also marks the midpoint of spring (May 1, Beltane, marking the beginning of summer). I've explained about the bunny and eggs on the forum before (folks can look it up on Wikipedia if they're curious).

Basically the later religions subsumed the pagan rites and festivals, the same way they took over the holy places (when they couldn't destroy them, like they did with the groves of the druids) and turned them into churches. Since people were already partying on those dates, the leaders of the churches just came up with an acceptable reason for the people to be partying. When you kill the leaders of a faith, and destroy the shrines and altars to its gods, and that path doesn't have a lot of written information to be stored away (the ancient Celts were a great one for that), in just a very few generations things get lost and forgotten.

Reread what I said my dear. Valentines day and Easter are 100% made up days. They trace their roots to pagan festvials/observances but no longer resemble their origins at all.

And as you well know I do understand exactly where they come from and choose to observe the original days instead of the contemperary bullshit.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Reread what I said my dear. Valentines day and Easter are 100% made up days. They trace their roots to pagan festvials/observances but no longer resemble their origins at all.

And as you well know I do understand exactly where they come from and choose to observe the original days instead of the contemperary bullshit.

Cheers,
Scotsman
I just like to take any opportunity I can to educate the public :qt: I consider it my community service :D

Easter's always my favorite, seriously. The adorable mish-mosh of bunnies, eggs, candy, baskets filled with grass and Jesus rising from the dead, just delightful ;) Christmas is pretty good, too, though. Like they have pine trees in Israel :rolleyes:
 
I just like to take any opportunity I can to educate the public :qt: I consider it my community service :D

Easter's always my favorite, seriously. The adorable mish-mosh of bunnies, eggs, candy, baskets filled with grass and Jesus rising from the dead, just delightful ;) Christmas is pretty good, too, though. Like they have pine trees in Israel :rolleyes:

:heart:

Yeah I love how the death and rebirth of a diety is celebrated by an egg laying bunny:confused:. Like there were white people in Israel back then.lol

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
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