So I wanna have kids...

[str8cubano]

From those of you who have expereince, and those of you who are planning to have kids in the future..what drugs are pretty safe in terms of having kids for the future without any birth defects or problems, and how long should you be off juice before deciding to attempt to have children..thanks - str8cubano

 

[DBBT]

was on a heavy test/eq cycle AND still got my wife pregnant.

 

[str8cubano]

so no problems and everythign was fine?

 

[MR. BMJ]

There has never been any correlation or causation of birth defects with AAS (past or present).

BMJ

 

[al420]

You could have 3 grams of test being shotinto your dick while getting your wife pregnant and it wouldn;t do anything IMO. Now if she was doing any AAS or other drugs for that matter it would be all over.

I have 4 kids and had a decent little coke problem up until about 8 months before my first son was born - I told her doctor all about it, basically told him EVERYTHING I had ever taken which was quite a bit and he said it was irrelevant. All is well and he is 8 now.

 

[liquidmuscle]

thats good to hear i am almost 30 and i have been using for about 6 yrs now and i am thinking about having little ones myself

 

[str8cubano]

good to hear...so you don't really need to stop a cycle if you decided to "attempt to have kids", or start the process of insemination..

 

[guiness2]

Aside from a vasectomy there isn't much to do for male birth control. Too many semen to kill or stop producing them all. What has been noticed, but not studied, is there seems to be a higher proportion of females conceived while "on."

 

[dsh89]

MR. BMJ is absolutely correct, as long as it is the male taking the steroids.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

test + deca without an AI has been shown to be a pretty effective form of birth control.

if you use an AI or SERM, chances are that you are still quite fertile during cycle. Proviron and HCG will also increase fertility

 

[solidspine]

You should be fine!

 

[Gymgurl]

test + deca without an AI has been shown to be a pretty effective form of birth control.

if you use an AI or SERM, chances are that you are still quite fertile during cycle. Proviron and HCG will also increase fertility

Now does it temp lower your count and when you stop does the sperm count go back up or do you maintain a lower count.....just wondering

 

[Sassy69]

If you have some time to read past discussions on this :

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1803893

 

[shoestring2]

If you are trying to have kids get off all drugs for a while untill she gets prego. People can say that there is no evidence of problems, but why take the chacne. If something bad happens and you were on a cycle during the time she got pregnant you will allways wonder if it is your fault... Don't mess with your kids future..

 

[BigCracker]

Read this and you'll be begging for roids to make you sterile.

http://www.nomarriage.com/children.html

 

[Ulter]

From those of you who have expereince, and those of you who are planning to have kids in the future..what drugs are pretty safe in terms of having kids for the future without any birth defects or problems, and how long should you be off juice before deciding to attempt to have children..thanks - str8cubano

I can't believe you've been here 5 years and you're asking about birth defects and steroids. Steroids have nothing to do with birth defects. And that's been explained and discussed at least 5 times a year due to newbie posts.
Fertility is another issue. But it's easily treated with HMG/HCG.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Now does it temp lower your count and when you stop does the sperm count go back up or do you maintain a lower count.....just wondering

since most men dont get thier sperm count tested prior to cycling their is little comparative data.

 

[BigCracker]

I got a girl prego and the kid was born with wings and hooves. My sperm don't even look like tadpoles under a microscope anymore-they look more like seahorses.

 

[Ulter]

Now does it temp lower your count and when you stop does the sperm count go back up or do you maintain a lower count.....just wondering

According to the WHO studies, which are the ones everyone is quoting, sperm count went back to normal, on average, within 6.5 months, when the men came off the steroids. Both when using enanthate and deca.

Note: It was also their determination that test/deca were not reliable means of male contraception and they dropped the project.

 

[scout69]

My wife is 8 months pregnant now and I was on heavy when she got pregnant..

 

[CrazyK]

HCG+HMG, and a strong PCT program and you'll have no problem producing swimmers. Even guys that have been on HRT for 20 years straight can still produce.

 

[str8cubano]

I can't believe you've been here 5 years and you're asking about birth defects and steroids. Steroids have nothing to do with birth defects. And that's been explained and discussed at least 5 times a year due to newbie posts.
Fertility is another issue. But it's easily treated with HMG/HCG.

Belive it buddy. Sorry If I offended you, but I post here on an average of 10 times maybe a year. I don't post year like a used to; I did a couple of searches and I never really looked into the threads your talking about by newbies because I really wasn't dealing with the issue before. I'm not sure what site I read or "misread" info on stopping the juice before getting your wife pregnant, so just wanted to double check on it. But because I have been here for 5 years, I figuered you bro's would go easy on me for the newbie post. Either way I got helpful info so thanks for everyone on the threads.

 

[BigCracker]

You guys that want kids-here's what you're missing. I can't even count the number of guys that have kids and say it's the best thing that ever happened to their training. Why? Because they hate their home life with their fat wife and screaming brat so much they spend twice as much time working out as they used to. Where can I sign up for that deal??? No thanks!!! Having kids is a life altering experience. It also makes you financially responsible for other mouths to feed for 18 yrs per kid. The old lady knows this, and will treat you as if you're stuck-cuz you are whether you stay faithful to her or not. Forget about sex and blowjobs, cuz you're pretty much done until she divorces you the day the kid turns 18. You'll them be a middle aged empty shell of what you once were and your only choice of women to choose from have been fucked and chucked so many times it would be more fun to hang out with a rabid grizzly bear. If I had $1 for every dad that wished he never had kids I'd be a very wealthy guy.

 

[Nytol2]

From those of you who have expereince, and those of you who are planning to have kids in the future..what drugs are pretty safe in terms of having kids for the future without any birth defects or problems, and how long should you be off juice before deciding to attempt to have children..thanks - str8cubano

Juice will not cause any defects, just lower your sperm count.

It could take up to 6 months to return, a good PCT will help.

I got my wife pregnant, after being on for about 8 months, I had started to use HCG, as I was prepering to come off, so we could try for a baby, and bingo, the HCG did the job.

Now I have a fantasic 16 month old baby girl,

 

[Ulter]

You guys that want kids-here's what you're missing. I can't even count the number of guys that have kids and say it's the best thing that ever happened to their training. Why? Because they hate their home life with their fat wife and screaming brat so much they spend twice as much time working out as they used to. Where can I sign up for that deal??? No thanks!!! Having kids is a life altering experience. It also makes you financially responsible for other mouths to feed for 18 yrs per kid. The old lady knows this, and will treat you as if you're stuck-cuz you are whether you stay faithful to her or not. Forget about sex and blowjobs, cuz you're pretty much done until she divorces you the day the kid turns 18. You'll them be a middle aged empty shell of what you once were and your only choice of women to choose from have been fucked and chucked so many times it would be more fun to hang out with a rabid grizzly bear. If I had $1 for every dad that wished he never had kids I'd be a very wealthy guy.

I have an 11 year old and can't wait to do it again. Making people is fun.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Making people is fun.

more the "making" part.

 

[gettnlarge01]

You guys that want kids-here's what you're missing. I can't even count the number of guys that have kids and say it's the best thing that ever happened to their training. Why? Because they hate their home life with their fat wife and screaming brat so much they spend twice as much time working out as they used to. Where can I sign up for that deal??? No thanks!!! Having kids is a life altering experience. It also makes you financially responsible for other mouths to feed for 18 yrs per kid. The old lady knows this, and will treat you as if you're stuck-cuz you are whether you stay faithful to her or not. Forget about sex and blowjobs, cuz you're pretty much done until she divorces you the day the kid turns 18. You'll them be a middle aged empty shell of what you once were and your only choice of women to choose from have been fucked and chucked so many times it would be more fun to hang out with a rabid grizzly bear. If I had $1 for every dad that wished he never had kids I'd be a very wealthy guy.

I have 3 girls and they are what I live for.I have sex almost everday with my wife and she treats me great[even knows about my gear use and gives injections]Maybe you need to talk to people who have made better choices in their lives!

 

[bogazo]

i made a little girl while on a heavy test/eq/dbol cycle

some of the things we take along our cycle can hurt the fetus if we are not safe,having our liquid orals on our skin or after we take our dose make sure to have no contact with the lady...some of these drugs just the smallest amount can really fuck our kids up...read below
nolvadex
PREGNANCY AND LACTATION
Pregnancy: ‘Nolvadex’ must not be administered during pregnancy. There have been a small number of reports of spontaneous abortions, birth defects and foetal deaths after women have taken ‘Nolvadex’, although no causal relationship has been established.

Reproductive toxicology studies in rats, rabbits and monkeys have shown no teratogenic potential.

In rodent models of foetal reproductive tract development, tamoxifen was associated with changes similar to those caused by oestradiol, ethynyloestradiol, clomiphene and diethylstilboestrol (DES). Although the clinical relevance of these changes is unknown, some of them, especially vaginal adenosis, are similar to those seen in young women who were exposed to DES in utero and who have a 1 in 1000 risk of developing clear-cell carcinoma of the vagina or cervix. Only a small number of pregnant women have been exposed to tamoxifen. Such exposure has not been reported to cause subsequent vaginal adenosis or clear-cell carcinoma of the vagina or cervix in young women exposed in utero to tamoxifen.

Women should be advised not to become pregnant whilst taking ‘Nolvadex’ and should use barrier or other non-hormonal contraceptive methods if sexually active. Premenopausal patients must be carefully examined before treatment to exclude pregnancy. Women should be informed of the potential risks to the foetus, should they become pregnant whilst taking ‘Nolvadex’ or within two months of cessation of therapy.

finasteride
just contact of the liquid would be enough to give male babys birth defects if the mom touched the liquid

Women who are or who may become pregnant must not handle crushed or broken finasteride tablets. The medication could be absorbed through the skin. Finasteride is known to cause birth defects in a developing male baby. Exposure to whole tablets should be avoided whenever possible, however exposure to whole tablets is not expected to be harmful as long as the tablets are not swallowed

 

[skacorica]

Interestingly a buddy of mine was right smack in the middle of a test cyp cycle and got his gf pregnant. Maybe frequency while on cycle due to drive outweighs reduced sperm count :-D

 

[str8cubano]

finasteride
just contact of the liquid would be enough to give male babys birth defects if the mom touched the liquid

Women who are or who may become pregnant must not handle crushed or broken finasteride tablets. The medication could be absorbed through the skin. Finasteride is known to cause birth defects in a developing male baby. Exposure to whole tablets should be avoided whenever possible, however exposure to whole tablets is not expected to be harmful as long as the tablets are not swallowed

Now thats an another topic. I was taking propecia, and now currently on dutasteride for hairloss, and now I read somewhere online that even ejaculating in the woman's mouth can leave traces of finesteride/dutasteride and cause birth defects with the males. I would have to do more research on that...scary

 

[MR. BMJ]

I wouldn't mind building a kid or two as well soon. Guess I need to find a woman though huh...that would probably help...lol.

Boy, if socks could give birth, i'd be in trouble.

BMJ

 

[skacorica]

I wouldn't mind building a kid or two as well soon. Guess I need to find a woman though huh...that would probably help...lol.

Boy, if socks could give birth, i'd be in trouble.

BMJ

or shower drains!

 

[paridhm]

or shower drains!

True that!

 

[BigCracker]

I have 3 girls and they are what I live for.I have sex almost everday with my wife and she treats me great[even knows about my gear use and gives injections]Maybe you need to talk to people who have made better choices in their lives!

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. You guys that love parenthood are an exception. Most guys can't handle the responsibility that's one reason why there's so many bastard kids out there. I still can't figure out how guys with kids can shoot their kid's college money in their ass. Then again, if $$$ isn't an issue it's no big deal. So is it true the pussy is never the same after your girl drops a kid? I hear it gets more loose with every kid. And what about the wife's rig? Is her body as sexy as it was before having kids? Do her new stretchmarks and saggy tits affect your visual stimulation in a positive way? And I'd also like to know if you get laid less now that you have kids?

If you answered no to a majority of these questions you've gotta be in denial about loving parenthood.

One last thing-with there being 3 school shootings inthe past 7 days, how do you feel about knowing that your model child might fall victim to one of these psycho crack babies someday?

 

[gettnlarge01]

If you make your own gear is cheap.The first couple months after chidbirth it is a little loose but it does go back to it's original size.If the women takes care of herself she will look just as good after giving birth as she did before.Stretch marks can be minimized but I don"t care because I know why they are there. If I"m part of the exception ThEN I take that as a compliment So all I can say is THANK YOU

 

[boz44]

I have 3 girls and they are what I live for.I have sex almost everday with my wife and she treats me great[even knows about my gear use and gives injections]Maybe you need to talk to people who have made better choices in their lives!

I am with you. My wife is incredible. She is a fitness freak and her body seems to get better every year. I also have two wonderful kids. However, we might be in the minority. I do see some fat ass wives and annoying kids. Makes me really grateful for what I got.

 

[DBBT]

so no problems and everythign was fine?

making kids is a good time.
correct, no problems everthing is fine.
child was conceived during high dose cycle.
Ulter knows, he showed me how to do "it."

 

[gettnlarge01]

I am with you. My wife is incredible. She is a fitness freak and her body seems to get better every year. I also have two wonderful kids. However, we might be in the minority. I do see some fat ass wives and annoying kids. Makes me really grateful for what I got.

I was beginning to think I was the only one here that had it made!!!LOL Glad I"m not all alone here.