Slow Digesting Protein...

[Bullit]

So I know whey is very fast to digest... and milk protein is slower. But what are the SLOWEST to digest? Real meat? How is Tuna/salmon/shrimp and crab? Would these make a better post-bedtime meal?

 

[Stryc-9]

Better than what?

I think casein is the slowest as far as absorption is concerned....but you can add some fat to any kind of protein to slow down digestion...

I'm curious about the meat issue myself....although I would rather have a quick shake before bed than a chicken breast or piece of steak...

 

[Bullit]

better than whey. "Better" in the sense that it will not be absorbed so fast.

Im thinking of having a 120g tin of crab before bed.. around 9:30 or 10:00.

 

[asone]

Bullit...
A good slow acting protein is no (salt added) cottage cheese. To improve the taste you can add sugar-free pudding to it. It keep you anabolic for a while during your sleep and it's cheap.


asone.......

 

[javaguru]

I remember reading that red meat can take up to six hours to digest.

 

[bigmanosu]

where can you find cottage cheese with no salt added
here on campus all i can get is those little packets of low fat, i can't even find fat-free around here

bigmanosu

 

[_jaap_]

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cottage cheese cheap??
yikes over here (in holland) cottage cheese is expensive :-( we cant even get the no fat variety. Only go's to show holland isnt heaven

 

[moto-racer-1]

cottage cheese (casein protein) is the slowest to digest, but you can add efa's to any thing to slow down digestion. Especially at bed time! bigmanosu what osu are you at??? I'm a big osu fan (OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY)

 

[anthrax]

I think you would slow down protein digestion if you mix it with fats and carbs

 

[riskybizz007]

i read somewhere that the meal you eat, how fast it gets absorbed depends on how much fat and fiber is contained in the meal. Fat and Fiber will slow down absorption of everything, even your protein shakes. Regular meat doesn't have a high GI, but if you eat it w/ a bunch of simple carbs it will be absorbed much faster than if you would eat it w/ brocolli, lettuce etc. Point being it depends on what you eat your meal w/. We as bodybuilders want to maintain that anabolic state as long as possible, and if dieting want to maintain it on the fewest number of calories. So many diets i've seen that incorporate carbs and fats into the program will eat the obvious high protein, w/ carbs coming only from vegetables, and for fat a tablesppoon of flax, or extra virgin olive oil. This will slow down absorption time.
hope that helps

 

[DaMan]

casein protein.
add fat, pref. flax oil.
add fiber, pref psyllium husk.

doesn't get slower than that.

try proteinfactory.com night formula, but customize it first.

 

[riskybizz007]

add some soy in there and it will slow down absorption by 30%. But daman just described my "before bed" drink... that's my secret weapon man!! j/k

 

[DaMan]

add some soy in there and it will slow down absorption by 30%. But daman just described my "before bed" drink... that's my secret weapon man!! j/k

I like the sound of that... what kind of Soy? (specifically, what product?)

 

[Bullit]

Dosent Soy f*ck with your estrogen levels??? 90% of what Ive read here says to steer CLEAR of soy!

So is 'real meat' digested as fast as Whey? I would really like to know if 40g of crab protein is better/same/worse (in terms of absorption rates) than 40g of Whey protein, or 40g of cassein protein.

 

[riskybizz007]

no way bro. Whey is very quick digested. Casseinate is much slower to be absorbed. Overall though anything you drink liquid will be absorbed much faster than real solid food b/c w/ real solid food your body has to break it down and that takes longer than something that's been already broken down for you.

 

[Bullit]

Thanks Risky.
I hate to kill a point but.....
Does that mean that the Crab (or tuna or salmon) protein will be absorbed more slowly than cassiate protien?
Im just lookin' to find out what is the most beneficial before bed ... some crab or some cassiate protein.

 

[riskybizz007]

I would think so. Like I said, solid food needs to be broken down and that takes a longer period of time versus something that has already been broken down. This is my standpoint on it, my opinion, and from medical standpoint it's correct. Now if there was a chart indicating when was the casseinate activated, peaked, and when the anabolism died out you could be more precise w/ the conclusion. But for now i'm sticking to my opinion.