slow and steady

[fun28hi]

I know most of you guys will laugh when you see the amounts of juice I am doing, but let me share with you my theory and then see what you think. With hormones I've heard from a couple of DR.'s less is more, that is you want to add to your own but not too much. So I do 250 mg test cyp and 250 mg deca every week and 2 iu gh or 50 mcg of igf. for 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off. I've gained about 35 lbs of muscle mass and have loss about 6% of BF over a year period. (still have more to go with bf but i know it is my diet). BAsicly my thinking is I want the benifits of the juice while minimizing the side effects and potential bad problems. I get blood test and when on my test range is around 1500... What do you guys think? I know I wont get freaky huge over night, but I seem to be keeping my gains and slowly I am getting big.... Any thoughts?

 

[hammertime30]

I know most of you guys will laugh when you see the amounts of juice I am doing, but let me share with you my theory and then see what you think. With hormones I've heard from a couple of DR.'s less is more, that is you want to add to your own but not too much. So I do 250 mg test cyp and 250 mg deca every week and 2 iu gh or 50 mcg of igf. for 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off. I've gained about 35 lbs of muscle mass and have loss about 6% of BF over a year period. (still have more to go with bf but i know it is my diet). BAsicly my thinking is I want the benifits of the juice while minimizing the side effects and potential bad problems. I get blood test and when on my test range is around 1500... What do you guys think? I know I wont get freaky huge over night, but I seem to be keeping my gains and slowly I am getting big.... Any thoughts?

Let me explain something to you bro...There is no right way or wrong way it's totally based on what works for you....some people need a little gear, and some people need a lot...some people grow off test and some people don't...if you have put on 35lbs in over the course of a year, then you've found something that works for you....so with that, who cares what anyone else thinks about the dosage.....stick to what is working for you bro because once you change that based on what someone else says that don't know your body, you may become disappointed quickly

 

[mrflexdiesel]

Damn, I thought we were talking about the best method of love making here?

 

[Wingnut32]

Its trial and error. If you found something that works well for you then stick with it.

 

[slat1]

I'm a minimalist myself. I used to grow like a weed on 250mgs of test a week. I went from 200 to 220! I started playing with higher doses and I really don't gain as much now. The problem I have is I know I will gain even less if I use less. I rarely go over a gram a week! It is tempting though when I see some of the freaks on this site! I'm 6'3" 240 9% right now. I would love to kick it up to 250 or 260 and drop some bf%... I am just afraid I will get every side effect known to man! LOL.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

Let me explain something to you bro...There is no right way or wrong way it's totally based on what works for you....some people need a little gear, and some people need a lot...some people grow off test and some people don't...if you have put on 35lbs in over the course of a year, then you've found something that works for you....so with that, who cares what anyone else thinks about the dosage.....stick to what is working for you bro because once you change that based on what someone else says that don't know your body, you may become disappointed quickly

That is some of the best advice I've seen on this site. Every time I see a message regarding someone elses cycle that says "that's a terrible cycle" I just think how ignorant that person is. Find what works for you. And as I've said before, "the only terrible cycle is the cycle that is not well thought out and with a specific goal in mind." Stick with your low dose cycles until they stop working then reevaluate.

 

[fun28hi]

THanks guys, and yes it is my theory to love making as well LOL! slow and steady works there too...

 

[Rod555]

THanks guys, and yes it is my theory to love making as well LOL! slow and steady works there too...

Fuck that, ram it in and leave em limping for days

 

[fugetaboutit]

Fuck that, ram it in and leave em limping for days

Rod,
That's what we used to call wheelchair material.....that's what they would need when I was done with them.............crutches would suffice too I guess. LOL.

 

[quadkilla31]

Let me explain something to you bro...There is no right way or wrong way it's totally based on what works for you....some people need a little gear, and some people need a lot...some people grow off test and some people don't...if you have put on 35lbs in over the course of a year, then you've found something that works for you....so with that, who cares what anyone else thinks about the dosage.....stick to what is working for you bro because once you change that based on what someone else says that don't know your body, you may become disappointed quickly

I agree 100%. Stick with what works for you.

 

[Jayy5921]

Awesome bro. Good solid gains. that is the way to go. I haved toyed with higher dosed cycle over and over and it is the same cycle for me. Out it on. then even with proper pct lose a good chunk of it. I have decided to go woth only mild AAS from now on. Anavar,primo,etc. If it is working for you then go with it. Those are some impressive gains and if you are maintaining them then hey, you cant beat it. Keep it up man.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Let me explain something to you bro...There is no right way or wrong way it's totally based on what works for you....some people need a little gear, and some people need a lot...some people grow off test and some people don't...if you have put on 35lbs in over the course of a year, then you've found something that works for you....so with that, who cares what anyone else thinks about the dosage.....stick to what is working for you bro because once you change that based on what someone else says that don't know your body, you may become disappointed quickly

good words

 

[Rod555]

Rod,
That's what we used to call wheelchair material.....that's what they would need when I was done with them.............crutches would suffice too I guess. LOL.

LOL, Wheelchair material! Im gonna use that one! (and pass it off as my own! )

Would give you some karma bro but ive got to spread it before hitting you again!

 

[gregory]

I know most of you guys will laugh when you see the amounts of juice I am doing, but let me share with you my theory and then see what you think. With hormones I've heard from a couple of DR.'s less is more, that is you want to add to your own but not too much. So I do 250 mg test cyp and 250 mg deca every week and 2 iu gh or 50 mcg of igf. for 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off. I've gained about 35 lbs of muscle mass and have loss about 6% of BF over a year period. (still have more to go with bf but i know it is my diet). BAsicly my thinking is I want the benifits of the juice while minimizing the side effects and potential bad problems. I get blood test and when on my test range is around 1500... What do you guys think? I know I wont get freaky huge over night, but I seem to be keeping my gains and slowly I am getting big.... Any thoughts?

Well you're basically on all the time. 4 weeks is not enought to clear the juice out of your system, specifically with Deca being present. Your HPTA never recovers or even pretends to. So in essence your conservative approach really isn't. You're juicing year round, hate to break it to you.

 

[fun28hi]

Well you're basically on all the time. 4 weeks is not enought to clear the juice out of your system, specifically with Deca being present. Your HPTA never recovers or even pretends to. So in essence your conservative approach really isn't. You're juicing year round, hate to break it to you.

MIssed type there should have said take 4-8 weeks off sorry for the confusion.

 

[capn]

MIssed type there should have said take 4-8 weeks off sorry for the confusion.

what about your PCT?

I also believe in using the least amount that works.

I think you see this more often in older or more mature bodybuilders. When I was younger, MORE was BETTER.

 

[gregory]

MIssed type there should have said take 4-8 weeks off sorry for the confusion.

OK, still 4 weeks is nothing. 8 weeks is better but your HPTA is still in a state of supression. So the negatives you're trying to avoid may surface once you try and go clean for 4-6 months. Deca is very supressive, but the fact whether you worry about this or not is dependent on your age as well. As far as i know you could be over 40 with 2 kids and not care about recovery.

 

[fun28hi]

OK, still 4 weeks is nothing. 8 weeks is better but your HPTA is still in a state of supression. So the negatives you're trying to avoid may surface once you try and go clean for 4-6 months. Deca is very supressive, but the fact whether you worry about this or not is dependent on your age as well. As far as i know you could be over 40 with 2 kids and not care about recovery.

31 here i do take clomid or hcg to try to reactivaqte things... Although I am in no hurry to make a baby! Haven to much fun being single

 

[ceo]

LOL, Wheelchair material! Im gonna use that one! (and pass it off as my own! )

Would give you some karma bro but ive got to spread it before hitting you again!

It's ok. I hit him with some green for you...and gave you some too.