slin users

[HighIntensity]

give me some ideas as to what you use...for 10 mins after shoting to get 50 percent carbs 50 percent protein...

a specific drink that I can buy and where you buy it....

thanks

 

[HighIntensity]

SLINNNNN

 

[Nathan]

Gonna start tommorrow. I'm just gonna use my Gatorade powder and whey. Do them together.

 

[Frackal]

lazy bitch buy yourself some dextrose powder and CFM whey isolate combined with hydrolyzed whey for super musckels oohyea

 

[HighIntensity]

lazy bitch buy yourself some dextrose powder and CFM whey isolate combined with hydrolyzed whey for super musckels oohyea

king of all gayness

AIM

 

[lawnsaver]

***This advice is only for the ones dedicated enough to respect slin********

**Advice based on a 20iu shot taken right after training**

My mains keys to success when taking Slin:

1: watch your diet not only while your slin is active, but the 2 hours before your shot. If you consume a lot of carbs and fat in that time frame, some will still be there when your slin goes active!

2: Glutamine and creatine are a must when using slin. You will see why these 2 supps should be at the top of everyones list. Slin just rams those 2 into your muscles. I take mine with protien/carb shake 20 minutes after my shot.

3: Take in as much whey protien isolate as you can handle with in the active time of the slin. WPI is the fastest protien to be digested. The faster it digests the more the slin can ram into your muscles. I try to drink 2 shakes and have 1 clean meal during the 4 active hours. My first shake is 75 grams of WPI, 50 grams of simple carbs, 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine. I then wait about 1 1/2 hours and have a very clean meal, but this will include 50-75 grams of complex carbs and about another 50 grams of protien, and finally I'll have a protien blend shake with 50-60 grams of protien.

4: I will say this with complete confidence!! You dont need 10 grams of carbs per IU. This is absolutely the safe play, but if you dont want the dredded slin fat deposits you must lower that ratio! Now this is where you must be the most dedicated. With each shot of slin, lower your carb intake. You must do it slowly. I have gone as low as 2 grams per IU without feeling any signs of hypoglycemia(sp). When I went to a 1:1 ratio, I began to sweat and shake. DONT PANIC!! your body will give you plenty of warning signs. You go to the frig and drink some juice or soda and all is well. Yes you read right I once took 100ius for 4 days straight while lowering my carb intake. I have come to a comfortable spot at 4-5 grams of carbs per IU. Lowering your carb intake while at the same time keeping as much fat out as possible is the key to keeping the fat deposits to a minimum.

I hope this has helped!! This advice comes from 3-4 years of slin off and on to find that happy medium where all is well and anabolism is in high gear.

Another note...With in those 4 days at 100ius per day, I made my all time best lifts in all major muscle groups. I have never felt that way again. This all took place while NO GEAR was in my system!

Slin is an amazing substance and if you can be dedicated to those active hours, you will fall in love!!

 

[macho21]

Lawnsaver, is that for Humulin-R or Log?

 

[lawnsaver]

Well it is for either. The only difference is that you wont have that much time to get all the protien I have stated, but all else is the same. I personally dont like humilog as it spike to fast and hard. I like the 4 hours active because it makes you respect those 4 hours. Also You can consume more key protien with humulin R active time.

Having such a quick spike with H-log, I would be a lot more careful with you carb intake!!

 

[Nathan]

Could you describe how much more careful? Log is active for 4 hours whereas R is active for 12.

 

[macho21]

Thanks bro, I used Humulin-R before, but next week I'll hit the Log for first.

 

[lawnsaver]

Could you describe how much more careful? Log is active for 4 hours whereas R is active for 12.

Log is active for 2 hours and R is active for 4 hours.

When you look at the charts that I think you are refering to, do to how the slin is constructed the last 8hrs the level of slin is very low and it not to be worried about.

The hours I listed above are the key hours for each

 

[Nathan]

I just mention it on account of fat intake. You need to worry about it for 12 hours wirth R really. That is why more people get fat with R. Also, is it important to make sure you eat at maintenance OVER THE ENTIRE DAY or to not over eat WHILE THE SLIN IS ACTIVE? I hope I am making that distinction clear. It's an important one for me to avoid fat.

 

[akathegame]

I had to chime in on the insulin talk. First thing is that contrary to what is typically said about insulin, it is not some bogey monster that will kill you for sure. Insulin won't kill you, but stupidity will. The two most important things for your safety are to 1)be exact in your measurement and dosing 2) recognize the signs of shock and get some damn carbs in you. Anyone with a pulse should be able to manage these two biggies.

Second point I think is worth considering is how useful insulin will be for you as an individual. If you tend to put on weight easily and get fat if you don't watch your diet, you probably don't need to pump in some extra insulin. It seems to be far more worthwhile for the hardgainers, though this has just been my observation in the gym. I've seen many guys get straight FAT "bulking" with insulin. It just makes me laugh because too many time these guys are just following BB trends and ignoring the individual results they are experiencing.

Finally, I think its critical that guys realize how individual dosing with insulin is. I'm not trying to call out the previous posts which had numbers like 20 IUs post workout or even as high as 100. I used to run 22 IUs post workout myself (I actually prefer to shoot mine 25min before I'm done lifting). The thing is, I recently tried a low dosage running 8-10 IUs with my workout and 8IUs four hours later. The results for me have been better, flat out. My point is not to say "take 8-10 IU's" , but rather to say carefully locate your individual optimal dosage. People need to realize that its not my 10 IUs or Lawnsavers 20 that you should note. Just note the amount of time and effort we put into obtaining the correct dosage.

In closing, insulin + 100 carbs + 50 whey + 20 L-glut + 10 Creatine = Nice & Legal. Best of Luck.

 

[lawnsaver]

I had to chime in on the insulin talk. First thing is that contrary to what is typically said about insulin, it is not some bogey monster that will kill you for sure. Insulin won't kill you, but stupidity will. The two most important things for your safety are to 1)be exact in your measurement and dosing 2) recognize the signs of shock and get some damn carbs in you. Anyone with a pulse should be able to manage these two biggies.

Second point I think is worth considering is how useful insulin will be for you as an individual. If you tend to put on weight easily and get fat if you don't watch your diet, you probably don't need to pump in some extra insulin. It seems to be far more worthwhile for the hardgainers, though this has just been my observation in the gym. I've seen many guys get straight FAT "bulking" with insulin. It just makes me laugh because too many time these guys are just following BB trends and ignoring the individual results they are experiencing.

Finally, I think its critical that guys realize how individual dosing with insulin is. I'm not trying to call out the previous posts which had numbers like 20 IUs post workout or even as high as 100. I used to run 22 IUs post workout myself (I actually prefer to shoot mine 25min before I'm done lifting). The thing is, I recently tried a low dosage running 8-10 IUs with my workout and 8IUs four hours later. The results for me have been better, flat out. My point is not to say "take 8-10 IU's" , but rather to say carefully locate your individual optimal dosage. People need to realize that its not my 10 IUs or Lawnsavers 20 that you should note. Just note the amount of time and effort we put into obtaining the correct dosage.

In closing, insulin + 100 carbs + 50 whey + 20 L-glut + 10 Creatine = Nice & Legal. Best of Luck.

Some good points!!

I should have noted when I train. Between 8-9pm. I sometimes split up my doses. 10ius in the am and 10ius post workout.

Also regards Nathans comment of watching your diet when on H-r for 12 hours. Since my shot is so late, I dont eat anymore after the 4 hours of true active time. So I dont need to watch it for so long. Also I usually drink about 4-6oz of juice before I go to sleep. This gives me another 15-25 grams of carbs to be safe.

Again, my advice is not for all. Its what works for me. But I will say that the main points I made should be put into what ever dose they decide on. My advice is all relative, so it can be incorporated into anyone dose if they train at night.

 

[Nathan]

Good posts guys but if you eat too many carbs while the slin is active but not many for the rest of the day say will that still make you fat or is it only if you go above maintenance over the entire day?

 

[Frackal]

Queen of all gayness, I'll be on as soon as im back from the store, it crashed again

 

[HighIntensity]

Queen of all gayness, I'll be on as soon as im back from the store, it crashed again

cool fancypants

 

[akathegame]

Good posts guys but if you eat too many carbs while the slin is active but not many for the rest of the day say will that still make you fat or is it only if you go above maintenance over the entire day?

I'd definitely get the majority of your carbs post workout with the insulin. If staying lean is a focus I'd get the carbs postworkout regardless of insulin, it the best time for them to be used for energy recovery and muscle repair rather than fat storage. As far as how many grams you actually need, the lowest number is gonna be determined by insulin shock and the upper quantity of carbs is gonna be determined by what your body can absorb without storing as fat, mirror is the best test for this. Basically both levels are determined by an individual's body. I've found the lowest I should go would be between 35-50g of carbs and 35 is really pushing it for me. Highest I go is really only limited by what I'm willing to stomach because when I bulk I don't stress over some fat, that what E/C/A is for, and besides I've never put on fat easily.