Sleeping & Schedule

[Anthrax Invasion]

I posted this on another forum, but wanted to see what everyone here had to say:

I dunno about anyone here, but I find I don't work well on a 24-hour clock. I tend to pass out at midnight some nights, waking at noon the next day, while others I'll be awake (not tired, mind you, like right now) all through the night and fall asleep at 7 AM.

How many of you stay on a strict schedule, getting a set amount of sleep each night and waking at the same time, settling into a nice groove? Even when I do it for a week or so, I fall right out of it, even if I don't go out or do anything - I just won't be tired one night, when all the rest I was exhausted around that time.

This is also while diet + life remains unchanged (i.e., no new foods or issues in life to throw off my mindstate before bed).

 

[carlsuen]

if you're working you have no choice.. but if you're studying then you'll probably have that probelm.. if u have trouble sleeping then go consult a doc.. good luck..

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

I'm not too keen on doctors. Never helped me much in the past. Just more grief and troubles. I work. I also study. What now, huh?

 

[b fold the truth]

I just make sure that I get 9 hours of sleep a night when I'm training hard and heavy. The earlier that I can get to bed...the better those 9 hours feel.

 

[anotherbutters]

I just go to bed at the same time each night, even if I don't feel tired. I soon doze off, although I wake up twice every night to go pee because I can't seem to tail off my water consumption towards the end of the night.

 

[silver_shadow]

masturbate and/or have sex... you should be able to fall asleep most of the times.

 

[djeclipse]

If you're still in school, living the "college life" then I can completly relate, sledom did I go t bed before 2:00am in college. But once you get a 9-5 job things get a little more structured as you'll find staying out till 4:00am and having to get up for work at 8:00 isn't the best for your body.

I guess it's all about priorities, do you value your nights out partying or do you value your weight training more?

 

[silver_shadow]

If you're still in school, living the "college life" then I can completly relate, sledom did I go t bed before 2:00am in college. But once you get a 9-5 job things get a little more structured as you'll find staying out till 4:00am and having to get up for work at 8:00 isn't the best for your body.

I guess it's all about priorities, do you value your nights out partying or do you value your weight training more?

i think he HAS chosen the latter... at least that's what i infer from the first post.... but i could be wrong....

 

[guest username]

I'm an emergency physician. I go from working 7 days in a row, having a week off, then doing 7 nights in a row, having a week off, and then repeating the cycle again.

Talk about one mucked up sleep cycle!

 

[djeclipse]

I'm an emergency physician. I go from working 7 days in a row, having a week off, then doing 7 nights in a row, having a week off, and then repeating the cycle again.

Talk about one mucked up sleep cycle!

That's not actually that bad. what about people working shift work in a factory type setting? Working midnights, then days, then afternons etc. On the switch form midnights to days you get less then 24hrs till your next shift... relaly messes up your sleep pattern.

 

[Guinness5.0]

I have a pretty set sleeping pattern and I hate to deviate from it. It takes several days for me to feel at my peak again after my sleep pattern gets disrupted. I generally get 7.5 to 8 hours a night.

 

[smaretick]

If you're having trouble falling asleep try Melatonin, it's relatively inexpensive & works for most people:

It is known as N-ACETLY-5- METHOXYTRYPTAMINE. It is naturally occurring chemical substance (hormone) present in a number of foods including rice, barley, corn & meat. It is produced in the Pineal Gland, which regulates the body's biological clock's natural wake/sleep cycle.
* Promotes sleep and allows time for regeneration
* Improves mood
* Prevents Jet lag
* Strong Antioxidant properties

Hope this helps.

 

[carlsuen]

masturbate and/or have sex... you should be able to fall asleep most of the times.

 

[b fold the truth]

Been sick off and on for a few weeks and when I woke up the other morning spitting up blood...I went to the doctor.

Gave me some sort of med, liquid, with codeine in it. Said to take it 4x a day. Can't...lol. I take one dose at night and I'm out like a light. Haven't slept that good in a LONG LONG time either. Supposed to help to open and clear out my throat and chest so maybe I'm sleeping deeper as well.

 

[silver_shadow]

Been sick off and on for a few weeks and when I woke up the other morning spitting up blood...I went to the doctor.

Gave me some sort of med, liquid, with codeine in it. Said to take it 4x a day. Can't...lol. I take one dose at night and I'm out like a light. Haven't slept that good in a LONG LONG time either. Supposed to help to open and clear out my throat and chest so maybe I'm sleeping deeper as well.

i reckon it just kinda knocks u out... kind of like alcohol.... and i suspect just like alcohol it affects your REM sleep so i'm not so sure it's the best thing.
just my .02

 

[anthrax]

If you're having trouble falling asleep try Melatonin, it's relatively inexpensive & works for most people:

It is known as N-ACETLY-5- METHOXYTRYPTAMINE. It is naturally occurring chemical substance (hormone) present in a number of foods including rice, barley, corn & meat. It is produced in the Pineal Gland, which regulates the body's biological clock's natural wake/sleep cycle.
* Promotes sleep and allows time for regeneration
* Improves mood
* Prevents Jet lag
* Strong Antioxidant properties

Hope this helps.

A Canadian group has issued a wake up alert on melatonin, the circadian-rhythm hormone that has been touted as the cure-all for jet leg. It doesn't work.

There is no evidence that exogenous melatonin, the hormone that regulates the body's inner clock , is effective for sleep disorders associated with shift work or jet lag, Nina Buscemi, Ph.D., of the University of Alberta and colleagues reported today in BMJ.

Put another way, melatonin cannot guarantee a good night's sleep to jet-lagged travelers or weary shift workers, said the investigators on the basis of a meta-analysis of 32 randomized controlled trials.

On the other hand, the analysis confirmed that short-term use of exogenous melatonin is safe.

For people with secondary sleep disorders, melatonin was associated with a slight increase in sleep duration (10 minutes) and this effect was statistically significant, but the authors said that based on advice from clinical sleep experts they "considered this effect to be clinically unimportant, due to its small magnitude."

For years melatonin, a hormone that is secreted by the pineal gland has been touted as the key to the body's inner clock, has been promoted as a natural non-prescription remedy for sleep disorders, especially jet lag.

The authors analyzed data from studies of melatonin for management of secondary sleep disorders and sleep problems associated with sleep restriction.

Among the findings:

* Six trials of 97 participants with secondary sleep disorders showed no evidence that melatonin had an effect on sleep- onset latency.
* Nine trials that investigated melatonin in 427 people with sleep restriction (shift work or jet lag) showed no evidence that melatonin had an effect on sleep latency.
* 17 trials that investigated the short term use of melatonin in 651 participants found no evidence of adverse effects.

The authors noted that other reviews have credited melatonin with eliminating daytime fatigue associated with jet lag, an aspect of jet lag that Dr. Buscemi and colleagues did not investigate.

Finally, the authors limited the analysis to studies of short-term use of melatonin, thus these results may not be applicable to safety with long term use.

Primary source: BMJ
Source reference:
Buscemi N et al "Efficacy and safety of exogenous melatonin for secondary sleep disorders and sleep disorders accompanying sleep restriction: meta-analysis." BMJ Online First doi10.1136/bmj387631.532766.F6

 

[b fold the truth]

i reckon it just kinda knocks u out... kind of like alcohol.... and i suspect just like alcohol it affects your REM sleep so i'm not so sure it's the best thing.
just my .02

I'm pretty sure that it isn't a great thing. I don't like taking anything to help me sleep. For the past 2 weeks I've just crashed every night. My training has been very hard, intense, and centered around squatting 4x a week. Hopefully that is my biggest reason for the exhaustion at night. I've just felt so darn good every morning...totally refreshed.

I have been drinking more water and juices, less Coca Cola, better foods, smarter training, etc... And it has gotten "cold" here...haaa.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

I'm pretty sure that it isn't a great thing. I don't like taking anything to help me sleep. For the past 2 weeks I've just crashed every night. My training has been very hard, intense, and centered around squatting 4x a week. Hopefully that is my biggest reason for the exhaustion at night. I've just felt so darn good every morning...totally refreshed.

I have been drinking more water and juices, less Coca Cola, better foods, smarter training, etc... And it has gotten "cold" here...haaa.

Agreed - I will never take a sleep aid. They're not the way to go. Not for me. I like it to be natural. If I don't fall asleep, then I pay for it in the morning, 'cause I force myself to wake up now. If I didn't get enough, I'll surely pass out the following night to "make up" for it.

 

[b fold the truth]

See...I can't "pass out" again the next night either...lol. My body likes to stay on the same clock.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

I can't help passing out - after being up for 40+ hours, it gets tough to stay up more. Especially when I don't eat right.

If I eat right, fhagetta 'bout it! I can be up for two days and only start to feel it then. I have NO IDEA why this is.

And I don't ever drink coffee. Fuck, I never have caffeine or sugar.