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sleeping pills(quality sleep?)

Baddogg

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Is the quality of sleep you get from taking sleeping pills just as good as falling asleep naturally? Would this effect your recovery of muscles?
 
it depends on the sleeping pills:

benzodiazepines won't give you a "quality sleep"

melatonin, 5-HTP, valerian root are much better
 
Baddogg said:
what about GABA?

it helps some people (w/ a "natural sleep") but does not work for every body
 
WizKid25 said:
What about nyquil?

??? the OTC drug for colds and cough ?

it is mainly a pain reliever

it will artificially promote sleep but it is not its primary purpose

not a good idea IMO
 
solidj55 said:
What about Kava Kava?

it helps but kava kava can be problematic for many.
Germany indicated severe liver damage from kava kava and has banned it afew months ago
 
Kava Kava sucks for sleep
5HTP is barely noticeable, not worth it IMO
Melatonin does induce sleep, but when I wake up I feel like crap.
 
Valerian root is my favorite sleep aid. Man anyone notice that valerian really smells - I mean really smells. I heard though if it doesn't have the strong odor then it's no good. Give it a try. 2 pills knock me out good - and I don't wake up feeling like I am drunk either.
 
I always feel my best when I take nothing except for some ZMA. Sleeping pills give me a terrible hangover and turn me into a zombie the next day. Especially benzos. Nothing like a natural quality sleep.
 
michaelt said:
anyone try l-tryptophan? i just ordered some.

certainly the best you can try

where do you find it ?
 
solidj55 said:
What about Kava Kava?

The popular herbal remedy kava, commonly used to treat stress and anxiety, has been banned in the UK by the Medicines Control Agency (MCA) following concerns that it can lead to liver poisoning. The UK previously issued a voluntary ban of the herb earlier this year.

Other countries have also taken action over kava products. In the EU all licensed kava products have been removed from the market while in Canada, investigations have concluded that there is insufficient evidence to support the products' safety and they have also been withdrawn from the market. In Australia products have been voluntarily removed from the market while an investigation is conducted and in the USA consumers have been warned of the risk of liver toxicity pending the outcome of an investigation by the FDA.
 
anthrax: biochemicals.com -(hopefully not a source post) i think thats where it was, if not, do a search onm google, i found a couple places.
 
michaelt said:
anthrax: biochemicals.com -(hopefully not a source post) i think thats where it was, if not, do a search onm google, i found a couple places.

thanx !
 
Has anyone tried theanine?
 
Most OTC sleeping pills will not provide the body with the quality sleep it needs. The OTC's will make you feel tired, and allow you to fall asleep, but they keep you in stage one and two of the sleep cycle. You want to be in stage three and four, which is REM sleep.
 
I've been on a ZMA supp and some GABA for a week now and have had an amazing night's sleep every night! Not to mention some very lucid dreams.
 
i tried gaba, it made me relaxed, but didnt help me sleep. it also had the funny side effect of making my limbs tingle, and shortness of breath.
 
a 5-HTP and kava kava combo work great for me.

GABA isn't too effective cause it is not effective at crossing the blood-brain barrier
 
I use Melatonin to help me sleep but if I take it too late, I do feel like crap in the morning. I also have some pretty wild dreams when I take melatonin. I've tried 5-HTP and I didn't like it, it didn't work for me.
 
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