shut down/suppressive

[juggy54]

Im kinda confused on the whole shutting down/suppressive thing. Do all steriods shut you down or is there such a thing as a steroid just being suppressive?

 

[str8nubin]

Yes and yes

It depends on what you run, how long, and the YOU variable

Plan on being suppressed then shut down regardless of what you do, and be prepared for it

 

[juggy54]

ok just wondering. I was thinking about trying an experiment on myself to see if it is possible to keep natural test production while on a steroid that is said to be "suppressive". I was thinking like running 400mg eq for 12 weeks, while running sustain alpha and toco-8 throughout to see if they are strong enough to keep natty test levels up. If test levels do fall i could shoot 250mg test a week to finish the cycle and go through with normal pct. i was just being bored and thought it would be cool to see how pp's products withstand a extreme test. (i am in no way super serious about doing this, just thinkin out loud.)

do you think it would work?

 

[SpyWizard]

Only way to really know is to have bloodwork done before, the after..

 

[juggy54]

yea if one was going to do this i would think to get blood work done maybe every two weeks. My thought were that a "cutter" cycle could be done without being shutdown afterwards

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Yes and yes

It depends on what you run, how long, and the YOU variable

Plan on being suppressed then shut down regardless of what you do, and be prepared for it

Good post.. and pretty much true..



Doing 8 weeks of test isnt going to supress you much.. probably wont even notice it too much coming off.. if so even a small amount of HCG will make up for it..


But running 6 months of a bunch of shit.. especially anything that affects prolactin levels (like Tren) is going to throw your pit. axis WAY offand your looking at a couple of months of therapy to get right..

some guys drink Tren like fucking beer and hardly notice the sides.. (or so they claim)

some guys will tell you they can do tren and deca and it doesnt affect their sex drive.. what they dont tell you is they rae a social retard and dont have a girlfriend,.. so they never get laid and cant really back up their claims.

I did it for 6 weeks and it shut me down for 8. Clomid was about as useless as a D cup on a nun.. (this was before Dostinex existed) and I was stupid and didnt use HCG thinking clomid alone was enough..DOH leanred my lesson



Straight test esters are preety safe for short term runs with little side effects... you should a still use HCG for a short time coming off.

But once you start mixing in more exotic shit.. expect more exotic side effects.

 

[juggy54]

good posts. hypothetically, if a person was not running test but a different compound, and kept their natural test levels at normal levels would pct be necessary?

 

[milo hobgoblin]

good posts. hypothetically, if a person was not running test but a different compound, and kept their natural test levels at normal levels would pct be necessary?

Thats not really possible.. most are direct analogues of test and will throw your axis off.

Id have to dig out my CRC to give you a really sterile (and boring) explanation but all androgenic/anabolic steroids are going to cause some kind of supression..