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Shrunken Nuts???

thumperf350

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hey bros. i ran my first 12 week finishing about 4 months ago. 400 test 3x-week, hcg 250 3x-week and arimidex. i finished with nolvadex at 60mgs daily for 2 weeks then 40 and then 20. i feel like my nuts are only 75% back. cycle finished dec. 1 and nolvadex finished mid/late january. any ideas. i've never felt better in my life than when i was on but I'd like to get this squared away before I go back. also last week i did 7 days hcg every day at 500. brought them back but they are starting to go again. thanks for reading
 
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Too much HCG will only keep you suppressed. I would not continue with that. Maybe one of needto's products will help. I'm not very knowledgeable about those though.
 
had never heard of hcgenerate or sustain alpha. did a little reading on both. sounds very impressive. where is the best place to order these? hey thanks for the response too. i hope this works!
 
hey bros. i ran my first 12 week about 4 months ago. 400 test 3x-week, hcg 250 3x-week and arimidex. i finished with nolvadex at 60mgs daily for 2 weeks then 40 and then 20. i feel like my nuts are only 75% back. cycle finished dec. 1 and nolvadex finished mid/late january. any ideas. i've never felt better in my life than when i was on but I'd like to get this squared away before I go back. also last week i did 7 days hcg every day at 500. brought them back but they are starting to go again. thanks for reading

Ah, where do I begin?

You did everything right -- according to the book. But I think it's all a big mistake.

I DO NOT believe in using low dose of HCG over an extended period of time. It's ineffective AND suppressive. It's the worst way to use it. You'd be better of with HCGenerate or some HMG. Then, use 3-4 1000 i.u.does of HCG to ring the boys back.

Aslo, if you're experiencing excessive atrophy -- CUT THE DOSAGES. Stop counting on one drug to fix another.

I can't express how much I hate nolvadex. A crap drug.

You did nothing to get you HPTA working on its own. UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE and designed for that. USing Aromasin while e is high is recommended.

Look into "BRIDGE" following your PCT.

Good luck.
 
had never heard of hcgenerate or sustain alpha. did a little reading on both. sounds very impressive. where is the best place to order these? hey thanks for the response too. i hope this works!

needtobuildmuscle.com and orbit.com
I get my products everytime within a 3 or 4 days and they work well. They know thier stuff and have formulated some very good supps.

u can pm needto or orbit for a discount. or shrimpoboy. if they can't respond, you can pm me.
 
Ken Thanks so much for the sources for these products and the info.

Nelson - I can't agree with you more about the nolvadex but I unfortunately went by the book on that drug and waited until after I took it to do the research. Knowing that I have been off of everything for 4 months or so, and knowing that I did a 7 day round of hcg about 2 weeks ago just to see if they would come back, what are you recommending a cycle look like for the bring the nuts back therapy?

hcgenerate - how much and how often?
3-4 dosages of hcg 1000iu's (how often?)
unleashed - how much and how often?
post cycle - how much and how often?
bridged - how much and how often?

I have adex for the estrogen.

Hey guys thanks for all of these responses. This has been an eye opener.
 
I've been using HCGenerate, Unleashed, Aromasin, and Sustain Alpha and my boys are still about half what they were before the cycle. It's been about 3.5 weeks after the cycle and I'm starting to wonder why they are not back. I'm almost done with all the bottles I listed above so I may have to pump some injectable HCG and see if that works...
 
I've been using HCGenerate, Unleashed, Aromasin, and Sustain Alpha and my boys are still about half what they were before the cycle. It's been about 3.5 weeks after the cycle and I'm starting to wonder why they are not back. I'm almost done with all the bottles I listed above so I may have to pump some injectable HCG and see if that works...

How long and what were you on?
 
I've been using HCGenerate, Unleashed, Aromasin, and Sustain Alpha and my boys are still about half what they were before the cycle. It's been about 3.5 weeks after the cycle and I'm starting to wonder why they are not back. I'm almost done with all the bottles I listed above so I may have to pump some injectable HCG and see if that works...

How heavy was your cycle?! Yeah, using the HCG is the way to get a jumpstart, then the supps will "hold" it. Otherwise, it'll take longer.
 
The culprit was Deca. Don't do that.

lol. ok, slap my hand. probably won't do it again, especially if I don't recover in a decent amount of time. starting hcg today so we'll see if that can revive my nuts and sustain them there after. you say 3 to 4 - 1000iu injections ed?
 
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