Shouldn't Syntrax remove this statement from

[HumanShell]

On the Adipokinetix bottles it says "Only Syntrax Innovations, Inc. uses 1r, 2s Norephedrine HCL -- the most thermogenic ephedrine alkaloid."


Doesn't Mass Quantities PPA use the same thing?

 

[enrage]

they should remove it but i'm sure Derek(owner of syntrax) has some legal excuse to use it

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Of course, it would be nice if their product actually had norephedrine in it, like it once did.

 

[HumanShell]

Please explain macrophage69alpha.

 

[bonapart]

yeah, what gives macrophage69alpha?

are you saying that syntrax lists 25mg of 1r, 2s Norephedrine HCL on the label, but actually has none?

seems to me doing that would get them in some pretty deep dirt...

bonapart

 

[cozmokramer]

bump

 

[booger]

Buzzword

macrophage69alpha

That stuffs great. It's even better than Microphase96beta. Nope. These companies are always coming up with some new name of something that is supposed to be so much greater than anything else. I've always thought Radon Gas Capsules were the best thing on the market.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

NOREPHEDRINE IS UNAVAILABLE...several sites have pulled adipo because of concerns that they not true to label. NO MORE NOREPHEDRINE products are being made- the supply dried up a while ago. SO only what was produced prior to the ultra-regulation of NOR, actually has NOR. Syntrax claims that they have somehow avoided this pitfall and that they have ""a "special" source that no one knows about""... directly qouted to a distributer friend of mine.

 

[booger]

PPA

Norephedrine is commonly known as phenylpropanolamine or PPA. The old Dexatrim. You might be able find some on the net somewhere. The FDA thing was just a recommendation to the supplement industry the last I heard. I've still got a couple of bottles of the stuff from the DNE site. Actually I built up a tolerance to it. It never did give me much of a buzz. Just killed the appetite. I'm sure there is some sitting around on someones shelf. You just have to find it.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

reccomendation, followed by regulations that made it IMPOSSIBLE for the supplement companies to get. From what I have heard, this I cannot confirm, Norephedrine is no longer being produced in the US...but as I said I cannot confirm this.

 

[bonapart]

well, i'd like to think we can trust syntrax. they are defenitely not the only company currently claiming to have norephedrine in their fat burner. mq does, and at least four other products that i've purchased in the past month also claim to.

i'm sure that the fda is not altogether very fond of companies like snytrax and mq. if they could test the supplements and find that they contained no norephedrine, i'm sure that they would love it. i know mq has independent lab tests of the potency of their products, although i don't see such a test for ppa on their website.

 

[Hogdude]

George has made big splash about this stuff being available for the first time since 98, did the reg change? or was no one producing it?? It seems unlikely that ALL the suppliers quit at same time..........

 

[macrophage69alpha]

george, moves about 1/20- probably less than what syntrax does. george likely did a large run(for him) when he heard the death knell sounding.

A REP FROM SYTRAX SAID THAT THEY WERE STILL ABLE TO GET THE RAW MATERIALS.......

though it is interesting that I dont see their product on the shelves of many stores WHERE they used to sit prominently, whereas all their other products are in full force.

 

[HumanShell]

though it is interesting that I don't see their product on the shelves of many stores WHERE they used to sit prominently, whereas all their other products are in full force.

That's probably because of the bad press that PPA has received, so the stores stopped carrying it.

 

[George Spellwin]

Macro is right. We have a little bit and that is it. We do not know what will happen when it is gone. I personally think it is safer than ephedra, so I think the FDA actions are crazy. If you want it, please check out:

http://shop.massquantities.com/supplements/123.html

 

[quigs]

whether its the real norephedrine or not, syntrax's adipo has worked better for me than any other "fat burner" that I've used (I've never tried the MQ PPA though). I would like to find out a little more though.

 

[ohbejuan]

macro is not always right

why would sytntrax put something other than norephedrine in the pills and risk someone doing a lab test on it. that could possibly cost them their entire company etc... macrophage does not even work in the 'nutrition industry' so i think it is safe to say that there are other people better informed than him. Run a lab test macro! syntrax was smart, saw this comming, stocked up on the materials and are planning to switch the formula to ma hung in several months.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

No, I am not always right.

However, many supplement companies have in the past doctored, aldultered or mislabled their products. muscletech and hotstuff- being two of the biggest violators.

It is very(actually more like somewhat- nor was regulated before the cessation of production) possible that syntrax stocked up on norephedrine- However, it is also likely that they like many other companies got caught with there proverbial pants down.

It is the claims by their rep that they have a "special source" that no other companies know about... that makes me most skeptical..

Btw- I think syntrax has some good products, though they MM4 is really just ginger extract (which is damn cheap- though I reccomend it highly)with a bit of synephrine... perhaps all the adipo left has nor... but if supplies last much longer--- it becomes more and more questionable.


peace

 

[ohbejuan]

get with it macro

actually macro, mm4 contains pharmacutical grade synephedrine along with Colius Forscoli (spelling??). not only ginger extract. And the website where i get Adipo, is having no trouble procuring the product. So this "rep" you keep refearing to is either blowing sunshine up your skirt or is his hig on too much GHB, because trust me, i have been taking the Adipo for a long time and i know that it still has what is on the label......: