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Should I use anavar?
- Thread starter BEAST420
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4 week Tbol kicker is what I am doing.
fun tbol on the front and anavar on the back end... you are very wrong about anavar and its clear you have never run it...
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ALIN
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If its your 1st cycle thw 12 weeks of TEST E should be plenty.
Eat big and train hard.
I'm running almost the exact same cycle as you except with var at the end. Dylan helped me put it together, 60mg var weeks 9-14. Last 2 weeks 80 if needed. This cycle is already phenomenal so far and the var at the end is gonna help finish on a whole other level.
To answer the op, I say use it. It's mild enough and not nearly as expensive as it used to be. Use n2guard and liv52 while running it.
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I am still new to aas and learning, so this is intended more as a question than as an answer:
Wouldnt using anavar as a finisher still essentially give the benefit of a single test cycle in terms if learning how his body reacts to compounds? From what i understand, pct usually starts two weeks after test cycle ends, so he would run test 1-12 and pct 14-18. If he ran var from 9-14 he would have 8 full weeks to see how his body reacts to the test before deciding whether to add the var. If it makes sense to add it, he would be able to do so for a full six weeks (fairly standard length run for var) to get full benefit and still be able to run pct on schedule.
Again, more looking to expand my knowledge as I continue to learn so OP should listen to more experienced posters. Just sharing my thought on the topic.
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I know I'm new here, but if I could do my first cycle over again I would NOT have included Anavar. I totally get now why the seasoned guys who care suggest test only for your first time. I lost half of my productivity dealing with the shitty sides I got from var use, and would have gained way more in the long run if I'd just done 12 wks of test.
Also every one is different, so telling newbies that 60-80 has no sides isn't the best practice imo. I have a buddy that can take 80mg/day for a year and have no sides, but as an otherwise perfectly healthy male I felt awful after just a few weeks on a much lower dose. Many others have posted about how awful it made them feel too. Certainly many get positive effects from Var, but it's not "one size fits all".
On a more positive note Var made my muscles feel rock hard which was cool, but not at all worth the almost crippling back pumps. I totally get why competitive bobybuilders would do var before a competition, or why you may want to add it for improved collagen synthesis (as I am considering in a small dose next time around), but just to add it for an extra "pop" to a first cycle isn't needed in my opinion. That being said, I totally get the urge to add more stuff, and do more when you're excited to give your first cycle a try, (I'm even guilty of it for my first and maybe even second), but the feeling and sides I got from Var was very different from Test, but I couldn't tell until I quite the var mid-cycle...
just my 2 cents.
Also every one is different, so telling newbies that 60-80 has no sides isn't the best practice imo. I have a buddy that can take 80mg/day for a year and have no sides, but as an otherwise perfectly healthy male I felt awful after just a few weeks on a much lower dose. Many others have posted about how awful it made them feel too. Certainly many get positive effects from Var, but it's not "one size fits all".
On a more positive note Var made my muscles feel rock hard which was cool, but not at all worth the almost crippling back pumps. I totally get why competitive bobybuilders would do var before a competition, or why you may want to add it for improved collagen synthesis (as I am considering in a small dose next time around), but just to add it for an extra "pop" to a first cycle isn't needed in my opinion. That being said, I totally get the urge to add more stuff, and do more when you're excited to give your first cycle a try, (I'm even guilty of it for my first and maybe even second), but the feeling and sides I got from Var was very different from Test, but I couldn't tell until I quite the var mid-cycle...
just my 2 cents.
musclei
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It's up to him, really. For your first cycle, just using test is a good choice and he'll use each and every of those weeks to learn about himself and the compound. As I said, I used a Dbol kickstarter myself so I shouldn't be one criticizing a choice like this but test only is going to be just as good, much cleaner and cheaper for him.
Just a copy/paste from my other thread, but this was just what I did, and what my experience was, not what I should have done lol
Since this happened I've spent dozens of hours reading on how to do the next one, and why the first should be a test only cycle. The biggest mistake I see were varying the doses, not running an AI, hcg, or liver support, and not starting test from day one. I had intended to run a var only cycle to avoid the use of needles (which seemed a little hard code for me at the time), and expected no sides. When I got shut down I ran for the test and quite the var, and it was smooth sailing
PHGHI
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Run Var for four weeks at 50mg then bump to 80 mg last two weeks of 12 to 14 week test cycle. After two weeks of Var first thing you will notice is you vascular arms veins popping out. Then watch your torso shred.
Don't forget your estrogen and DHT blocker. Anavar is the best to start off with your Testosterone
Don't forget your estrogen and DHT blocker. Anavar is the best to start off with your Testosterone
musclei
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Estrogen and DHT blocker for Anavar? Anavar is a DHT derivate that doesn't aromatise so no AI is needed but neither is a DHT blocker since all it would do (I think) would be neutralizing the Anavar. It's supposed to be very mild in terms of DHT-ness anyway.
which oral you decide to run is going to be dependent upon your goals... just because anavar is considered mild, does not mean that it will be for EVERYONE... one thing that people fail to understand is that, none of these facts are 100%... we all react differently to things... you will be fine to add anavar on the back end of the cycle as you will know how your body is reacting by week 9 of test... with anavar, the main thing you need to do is protect your live and bp as well as lipids... i would definitely use hcg or hcgenerate at that point of the cycle as well... make sure to have taurine because anavar can cause pumps as well... it is mild but any aas can give side effects...
thank you guys, i appreciate all the responses. im starting to place my order.
On hand now i have:
2 bottles cell cycle assist
bridge
2 bottles post cycle
unleashed
aromisin
daa
3 bottles of test e
1 full bottle and one bottle with 120caps of HcGenerate (270 caps total)
what i plan on buying:
enough anavar for 7 weeks (60-80 mg)
hcg 5000 ius ( to blast the last 2 week at 250 ius day)
forma stanzol
taurine
lipid stablil
What am i missing? Thanks again guys...
On hand now i have:
2 bottles cell cycle assist
bridge
2 bottles post cycle
unleashed
aromisin
daa
3 bottles of test e
1 full bottle and one bottle with 120caps of HcGenerate (270 caps total)
what i plan on buying:
enough anavar for 7 weeks (60-80 mg)
hcg 5000 ius ( to blast the last 2 week at 250 ius day)
forma stanzol
taurine
lipid stablil
What am i missing? Thanks again guys...
PHGHI
New member
AI and DHT for your Testosterone portion of your cycle
aromasin is fine bro... thats enough...
