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Should I lower tren dose

Yes sir u are correct but it's a simple thing here

Never done tren and wants to ramp up dose to soon before he knows how he will react

Tren was my only compound wit test for 3 yrs that's all I cycled cuz I fell in love with it !!!


Ah, yes indeed. Those damn youts (trying to mimic Joe Pesci slang). Well, hopefully he will listen to the vets and not let the juice go to his head (no pun intended).
 
Yes sir u are correct but it's a simple thing here

Never done tren and wants to ramp up dose to soon before he knows how he will react

Tren was my only compound wit test for 3 yrs that's all I cycled cuz I fell in love with it !!!

Here's why I ramped up. Trying a new source this cycle, went 4 weeks and didnt feel anything at all. I started to worry it was underdosed so I ramped up. Now I know tren e can take a while to hit so it's my fault for being impatient. Still not having night sweats or anything terrible. Just my resting heart rate is higher today, had me a little nervous
 
His is why tren ace is a good first choice ability to lower and get sides down fast
Plus u know when sides manifest sooner
 
Here's why I ramped up. Trying a new source this cycle, went 4 weeks and didnt feel anything at all. I started to worry it was underdosed so I ramped up. Now I know tren e can take a while to hit so it's my fault for being impatient. Still not having night sweats or anything terrible. Just my resting heart rate is higher today, had me a little nervous


Fucking a brah. that is the worst thing u could of done. If u don't know what a product is or what its concentration is, NEVER RISK amping up, brah. What if that shit had something in it, that at a higher dose would toxify (poison) the shit out of ya? It would be to late!
 
Fucking a brah. that is the worst thing u could of done. If u don't know what a product is or what its concentration is, NEVER RISK amping up, brah. What if that shit had something in it, that at a higher dose would toxify (poison) the shit out of ya? It would be to late!

Right on. Now that I got the attention of the vets here...is it possible to build muscle while in a calorie deficit on tren. I don't mean get lean and look bigger so you think your building muscle. Lots of ppl say you can but gear is magic, feel like the same rules still apply
 
Fucking a brah. that is the worst thing u could of done. If u don't know what a product is or what its concentration is, NEVER RISK amping up, brah. What if that shit had something in it, that at a higher dose would toxify (poison) the shit out of ya? It would be to late!


Right on. Now that I got the attention of the vets here...is it possible to build muscle while in a calorie deficit on tren. I don't mean get lean and look bigger so you think your building muscle. Lots of ppl say you can but gear is magic, feel like the same rules still apply
 
Right on. Now that I got the attention of the vets here...is it possible to build muscle while in a calorie deficit on tren. I don't mean get lean and look bigger so you think your building muscle. Lots of ppl say you can but gear is magic, feel like the same rules still apply

Well, i'm no vet bro, but i have been screwing around in the game for years.

Lets talk tissue (simplified of course, not on your behalf, but mine. I'm just a poor ole dumb country boy trying to survive). Are we talking hyperplasia or hypertrophy?
 
Well, i'm no vet bro, but i have been screwing around in the game for years.

Lets talk tissue (simplified of course, not on your behalf, but mine. I'm just a poor ole dumb country boy trying to survive). Are we talking hyperplasia or hypertrophy?

I meant to say gear isnt magic
 
I don't mean get lean and look bigger so you think your building muscle. Lots of ppl say you can but gear is magic, feel like the same rules still apply

Well, I do see your point my bro. However, i will go as far as saying gear is the closesit thing to magic. For ex. take a guy who has never geared up in his life, then let him do a mild db ONLY cycle. Guarantee you he will gain weight and strength EVEN IF HE DOESN'T DO SHIT. That's magic in my eyes. See what mean? of course if same individual eats right, lifts right, etc, what will go down?

Anyway, what I wanted to touch with you was your thinking on gaining muscle tissue. You know that we are all born with x amount of muscle tissue. That's right, at birth we have the very same amount of muscle cells that we die with. Now all we can do is either blow those cells up, which give the appearance of more cells, or we can actually add cells. Hyperplasia being addition of cells and hypertrophy being blowing the cells up like a balloon.

Good luck achieving hyperplasia. Even with juice use. Now, when u get into growth hormone, igf-1, etc., then we are talking actually adding muscles cells. However, you have to be careful with this approach due to the fact not only do your muscle cells multiply, but every other cell in your body. Bones, heart, liver, whatever is a cell. So I don't mean to burst the bubble, but keep in mind u really aren't adding muscle cells anyway, unless u are really really down with your game. in other words, it is a bitch to gain actual muscle tissue beyond what u were born with. Does this make any sense my bro? Therefore, I would concentrate for now on figuring out how my own body works with diet, training, sleep, etc. Then add in the anabolics to enhance your natural born genetics, which will only be yielding a blown up version of the muscle cell. Again, if u are shooting for literal muscle tissue gain, good damn luck, bro! It's a bitch to achieve!
 
Well, I do see your point my bro. However, i will go as far as saying gear is the closesit thing to magic. For ex. take a guy who has never geared up in his life, then let him do a mild db ONLY cycle. Guarantee you he will gain weight and strength EVEN IF HE DOESN'T DO SHIT. That's magic in my eyes. See what mean? of course if same individual eats right, lifts right, etc, what will go down?

Anyway, what I wanted to touch with you was your thinking on gaining muscle tissue. You know that we are all born with x amount of muscle tissue. That's right, at birth we have the very same amount of muscle cells that we die with. Now all we can do is either blow those cells up, which give the appearance of more cells, or we can actually add cells. Hyperplasia being addition of cells and hypertrophy being blowing the cells up like a balloon.

Good luck achieving hyperplasia. Even with juice use. Now, when u get into growth hormone, igf-1, etc., then we are talking actually adding muscles cells. However, you have to be careful with this approach due to the fact not only do your muscle cells multiply, but every other cell in your body. Bones, heart, liver, whatever is a cell. So I don't mean to burst the bubble, but keep in mind u really aren't adding muscle cells anyway, unless u are really really down with your game. in other words, it is a bitch to gain actual muscle tissue beyond what u were born with. Does this make any sense my bro? Therefore, I would concentrate for now on figuring out how my own body works with diet, training, sleep, etc. Then add in the anabolics to enhance your natural born genetics, which will only be yielding a blown up version of the muscle cell. Again, if u are shooting for literal muscle tissue gain, good damn luck, bro! It's a bitch to achieve!

Trenbolone (TREN) is used for anabolic growth-promotion in over 20 million cattle annually and continues to be misused for aesthetic purposes in humans. The current study investigated TREN's effects on body composition and cardiometabolic risk factors; and its tissue-selective effects on the cardiovascular system, liver and prostate. Male rats (n=12) were implanted with osmotic infusion pumps delivering either cyclodextrin vehicle (CTRL) or 2mg/kg/day TREN for 6 weeks. Dual-energy X-ray Absorptiometry assessment of body composition; organ wet weights and serum lipid profiles; and insulin sensitivity were assessed. Cardiac ultrasound examinations were performed before in vivo studies assessed myocardial susceptibility to ischemia-reperfusion (I/R) injury. Circulating sex hormones and liver enzyme activities; and prostate and liver histology were examined. In 6 weeks, fat mass increased by 34±7% in CTRLs (p<0.01). Fat mass decreased by 37±6% and lean mass increased by 11±4% with TREN (p<0.05). Serum triglycerides, HDL and LDL were reduced by 62%, 57% and 78% (p<0.05) respectively in TREN rats. Histological examination of the prostates from TREN-treated rats indicated benign hyperplasia associated with an increased prostate mass (149% compared to CTRLs, p<0.01). No evidence of adverse cardiac or hepatic effects was observed. In conclusion, improvements in body composition, lipid profile and insulin sensitivity (key risk factors for cardiometabolic disease) were achieved with six-week TREN treatment without evidence of adverse cardiovascular or hepatic effects that are commonly associated with traditional anabolic steroid misuse. Sex hormone suppression and benign prostate hyperplasia were confirmed as adverse effects of the treatment.
 
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