Should I do GH only instead?

[CLEMDOG]

Ok, I cant ever make up my mind, it is always changing ideas. First cycle proposition was anavar, clen, guggul, glutamine, creatine, ALA.
Second proposition was:
fina 75mg EOD for 6.5 weeks
GH 3iu/day 5on-2off, for 6.5 weeks
clen 60mcg/day 2on-2off-2on
T4
ALA 600mg/day
clomid and arimdex

Now, what I've been thinking about doing is dropping the fina and buying a little more GH. I know everyone says dont take GH alone, but I'm looking to get shredded. I'm already about 7% so I should respond pretty well.
I was thinking:
6 24iu kits norditropin using 1 kit per week (5iu/day) for 6 weeks. Or doing 4iu/day and making last about 8weeks.
also with clen, t4 and ALA.

???

one more question I need answered, if I reconstitute a 24iu kit with bacteriostatic water then can it last 8-9 days?
also is it ok to use ALA while using GH?

 

[genarr3]

Bro I don't know dick about GH, but I thought you needed to do it for longer then 6 weeks. Shoot M.O.D an email.

 

[boss]

gh is useless if used any less than 3 months and i have asked so big time boys and they also said that was a waste but do as you please, just my 2 cents....

 

[liquidmuscle]

bro if i read correctly you said this is your first cycle why do you want to do GH? Save your money and do low doses of test/eq or test/eq/d-bol a good cycle under 300.00 should get you good gains, save the Gh til you have a few more cycles under your belt

 

[Adaptek]

bro if i read correctly you said this is your first cycle why do you want to do GH? Save your money and do low doses of test/eq or test/eq/d-bol a good cycle under 300.00 should get you good gains, save the Gh til you have a few more cycles under your belt

Excellent post!

Now CLEMDOG, send me your GH I will use it and send you some test and low dose stuff in exchange.

Peace

 

[chronicx357]

1st cycle- 15mg dbol/day + 250mg sust every 5 days gained close to 30 lbs kept alot of it. barely cost over 200. point is, for your first cycle you dont need alot for it to work

 

[Rico]

GH by itself is little more than a pretty good fat-burner, which if that's all you are after, your money can be spent MUCH better for the purpose. Personally, I would throw in a fair amount of testosterone, T3 instead of T4, and ideally some insulin. GH will actually cause your muscle cells to multiply, but that's not going to do you any good unless you actually include something to help them GROW (anabolics). T3 is important because the GH will alter your normal thyroid function....In a nutshell it makes the GH MUCH more effective. Just my 2 cents, but I wouldn't dream of taking GH alone (Unless I had AIDS or a wasting disease).

 

[CLEMDOG]

No,no guys this will be about my 6th cycle.

My main objective for using the GH is to lean out really well. I've heard that 6-8 weeks of using GH is ok if your goal is fat loss.

So, I guess the best option would be to go for the fina/GH/clen/T3-T4. The only reason I'm thinking about doing the GH alone is due to the low incidence of side effects at sane dosages and that I need a break from AS induce sides, also for joint/tendon regeneration/regrowth. Especially if I use fina, which is hard on your body, I dont feel like getting nosebleeds everyday, acne, and just the overall possible problems fina could cause.
Also that is why I first planned on using anavar/clen/guggul/ALA. Low to nil sides.

I must say, when I was on fina alone, I looked absolutely incredible!!

 

[CLEMDOG]

bump...

I especially need to know about the bacteriostatic water and whether it is ok to use ALA when using GH.

 

[Dr.Big]

I would include some primo with it personaly many would say test prop. but your preferance. also maby some metaforman(sp) to counter the slin resistence from gh. many people dont like the metaforman but I seem to respond well to it when leaning

 

[Victor]

HGH alone is a waste IMO




Victor

 

[KillerLoop]

Everyone say HGH alone is a waste but who's actually tried it??

I think Test works really well with GH, so Prop would be a better choice then Tren.

 

[Vlad67]

Many of you have stated that being on GH alone is not very effective and that you need to be on it for at least 3 months to notice results.

Does this mean I should put together a 12 week cycle or should I do an 8 week cycle and spend the last 4 weeks GH only?

VK

 

[Phreaky]

GH alone will produce slow and almost unoticable gains. That is, until you are done with your course. With a before and after picture you will see a dramatic re-compositon of your physique. Length of cycle is far more important than dosage. In other words, use less for a longer period of time. Anabolics/androgens greatly amplify the effects of GH, so it would make sense to use them in conjunction. ALA is fine while on and may help, but it isn't a drug per say, so it's effects may go somewhat unoticed as compared to insulin. Here are some suggestions for anyone who is able to legally use these drugs:

Months 1-3:

>>Use 2iu/day on a 5 on/2 off for a min of three months (inject first thing in the morning)

>>Use a min of 500mg/week of Anabolics/androgens (ie. 300mg test, 200mg nandrolone)

Month 2 only:

>>Use 25mcg/day of T-3

>>Use Humalin R in the morning, working up to 10-12 iu (if using ALA you may need to decrease dose)

>>Use Humalog after traning only, working up to 10-12 iu (if using ALA you may need to decrease dose)

>>Take 6-8g of high glycemic carbs for every unit of insulin used mixed with 10g glutamine+10g creatine+50g whey isolate

This, I feel, is the minimum effective cycle for GH.

 

[CLEMDOG]

thanks for all the replys guys.

Phreaky, do you think 2iu/day is even going to do anything? If I did 3iu/day then 4kits would last me 7 weeks. Maybe I might just stick to the anavar cycle I have planned cause I really looking to do something that is safe and easy on the body. But then again I wouldnt mind healing up a few small injuries with some GH. So many choices!

Also, anyone know about the bacteriostatic water?
Oh yeah, the 24iu norditropin kits, when you reconstitute is it in one big bottle or does this kit come with several smaller bottles you reconstitute when you need them? that would seem to make more sense.

 

[diamonddiceclay]

2 i u for a young man will not do too much

 

[Phreaky]

I advise you guys not to get into the "more is better" frame of mind. YES, you will notice gains from 2iu's/day. Remember that this is a min. recommendation, but my main point is LENGTH of time on that makes the difference. Use GH for a longer period of time...it is not a "quick fix" somewhat like gear, it is a longer term commitment. Were you will see dramatic gains in less than two months from gear, GH will take at least three month of continous usage to reap full benefits.

 

[ironmaster]

I'm kind of confused, but I think you are saying that you want to bridge, while laying off androgens (test, etc.), and not lose mass while leaning out a little. If so, a damn fine bridge that will also allow your axis to recover is GH/insulin/t3 (t3 only the last couple weeks) and a handful of anavar in the AM only. No steroid side effects, your nuts will recover (take the clomid), and you will keep what you've got and shed some BF as well.

 

[1Mistake]

HGH works alone!!! I've done it with t-3 and its worked great...no big gains,but great body comp changes.Its BS that you can't do it alone or won't make gains on it under 3 months

J