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should gays be allowed to get married?

strongchick said:
well?

I think so...less partner trading. More rights for the couple.
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I agree they should have the same right as traditional couples, but isn't a marriage DEFINED as the bond between a man and a woman?
 
Y_Lifter said:
Yes, as long as People can also marry farm animals and claim them as a dependant.
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Finally someone who understands me!!!!
 
Re: Re: should gays be allowed to get married?

freshr1 said:


I agree they should have the same right as traditional couples, but isn't a marriage DEFINED as the bond between a man and a woman?
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Who defines what marriage is? How did they get this authority?
 
YES... they should be allowed to get married.
They should just be kept the fuck away from children.
 
I dont see why they should not be allowed to go through the same miseries as straight married couples ie divorce, gimme half of what you got bwahahahah.
 
To answer freshr1's question:

per Merriam-Webster...

marriage: the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family.
 
Wow. The night crowd on here is less enlightened. By now I would've gotten maybe twenty posts with various expletives about fags and dykes...


much love....yay!
 
GLADIATOR351 said:
To answer freshr1's question:

per Merriam-Webster...

marriage: the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family.
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Yes...but the LEGAL definition varies from state to state....
 
Y_Lifter said:


Watch it honey! Or WODIN and I will hunt you down for insulting our life partners.. Baaahh !!!
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LOL!!!!

I got nothing but love for the LLama....hmmmm llama!!!
 
WODIN said:


LOL!!!!

I got nothing but love for the LLama....hmmmm llama!!!
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Wodin,
You just lay off Petunia over in the corner pen with the black spot on her belly. She is full of Milhouse right now.
 
The legal deffinition changes from state to state.. true.. The original definition remains the same. The legal definition has been changed to accommodate the growing numbers of same sex couples. Why? So the state can get the $$$ from the marriage certificates. They don't care if it is M/M, F/F, or M/F as long as they get their $$$.

per the original definition.... can they be joined in marriage.. no.
should or can they be recognized as a couple or in partnership and given the same rights as a married M/F couple... sure why not...
 
I agree that they should be allowed to marry, however..... let's carry on our converstation from the other thread:


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Originally posted by GinNJuice




Sounds like it's time for you to move on......

Let me ask you a question, if "4 years is long for a gay relationship", what will happen when states start allowing legal same-sex marriages? Will there be a huge spike in the divorce rate?
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Originally posted by strongchick


um, no. And I'll tell you why...short version:

Part of the reason why gay relationships are short is because of lack of a support system. Straight people don't realize it, but family support, legal support, societal support, are what hold relationships together during difficult and good times.

Imagine a relationship with no legal strings....what happens is, you mentally and emotionally deal with things as if they could possibly end...meaning...you have NO legal recourse if something should happen. The tendency is toward separate checking accounts, separate furniture ownership, car note in one name....in some, not all relationships. This goes for straights too, but then, they have societal and familial support, usually.

I could go on...but then this would turn into a 'should gays be allowed to get married thread'
 
strongchick said:
Part of the reason why gay relationships are short is because of lack of a support system. Straight people don't realize it, but family support, legal support, societal support, are what hold relationships together during difficult and good times.
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I always thought it was LOVE that held a relationship together during difficult times. Call me old fashioned:confused:

Why does a loving relationship need support from the government?
 
Seriously SC, I don't have any issues with it really.
My daughter is only 10 years old and we have explained to her that people are different in many ways and that some boys like boys or girls like girls and that is what being Gay means .
We did impress on her our moral beliefs that is not considered Normal(whatever that means) to SOCIETY in general and to us..

The view of a Man finding another man "Sexually" attactive is a BIG mystery to me and kinda gives me the creeps.

Other than that, WTF do I care.

Now..... 2 women being attacted to each other is definitly a double standard for me as I can totally understand that shit...
 
Sure.

On Spin City (I love that show BTW) the mayor had a funny line. "I think gays should be allowed to get married. They should have a chance to go the hell all the rest of us do."
 
Y_Lifter said:


And wouldn't it be sweet to also be able to claim them on a 1040?
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What do you meand "be able to".... I have been taken deductions for Peaches and Paco for three years now. Not so much as a peep...even when I got that big ass check from an audit. Although the field guy spent way too much time alone with Paco IMO!
 
Yes. If you aren't hurting anyone, who gives a rat's ass? If you're gay, you're gay. You should still have the full opportunity for a rewarding and fulfilling life.
 
yes
 
Originally posted by WODIN

What do you meand "be able to".... I have been taken deductions for Peaches and Paco for three years now. Not so much as a peep...even when I got that big ass check from an audit. Although the field guy spent way too much time alone with Paco IMO!
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You had better plan on sending Peaches and Paco to a local college so you can get 4 more years. Make them live at home instead of a Dorm in case Da field Man comes a callin again.
You know he will:horny:
 
I am in no place to judge or say that gay marriages are wrong...everyone has to the right to love who they choose, even though coming from a religious standpoint I don't agree with them being able to get married in a church... BUT gay couples being able to adopt children is just pushing it too far! I'm not saying they wouldn't make good parents but for the child it's too confusing and they would suffer too much abuse from their peers, it's not fair to the child.
 
Echoing Warik...

No.

And, even if I come to be OK with this, sometime in the distant future, I know that I will never be able to accept gays adopting children--EVER! ...
 
Badkins21 said:
Echoing Warik...

No.

And, even if I come to be OK with this, sometime in the distant future, I know that I will never be able to accept gays adopting children--EVER! ...
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AMEN !!!!! STAY AWAY FROM KIDS!!!

it takes a male and a female to make kids.. not 2 peckers. If you want to be gay.. be gay.
 
GinNJuice said:


I always thought it was LOVE that held a relationship together during difficult times. Call me old fashioned:confused:

Why does a loving relationship need support from the government?
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Yep. Wait, didn't I ask this on another thread? Don't expect an answer. Other than tax reasons, as that was all I was able to extract.
 
Hmmm.. if we did, could you imagine what our divorces would be like? Damn, what entertainment just going to the courtroom and watching.

One of the advantages of being homosexual is you don't have to worry about marriage. Then if you do divorce, you or the other just move away. In straight world happenings, one of you just move away too, but with a lot of debt and the female getting all of what you own. Ha hahahahahahahahaahaha.

A better question would be : Should cartoon watching nerds be allowed to marry?
 
To get married . . . yes, as it pertains to being legally considered a couple.

To be "joined in HOLY matrimony. . . " I'm not sure, but I don't personally think it is holy . . . but then who am i to say?
 
BGs7.. you are also from Atlanta.. so you know a little bit about this.. as do I. We have a few gay guys living in Atlanta for those who have never been here.
 
Anal AssPlorer said:
Hmmm.. if we did, could you imagine what our divorces would be like? Damn, what entertainment just going to the courtroom and watching.

One of the advantages of being homosexual is you don't have to worry about marriage. Then if you do divorce, you or the other just move away. In straight world happenings, one of you just move away too, but with a lot of debt and the female getting all of what you own. Ha hahahahahahahahaahaha.

A better question would be : Should cartoon watching nerds be allowed to marry?
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Ditto. I can't wait for "Lesbian Divorce Court," which is bound to have a cast of thousands.

I'm fond of that old Judy Tenuta line: "The only people in American who want to get married and serve in the military are gay people."
 
PinK233 said:
I am in no place to judge or say that gay marriages are wrong...everyone has to the right to love who they choose, even though coming from a religious standpoint I don't agree with them being able to get married in a church... BUT gay couples being able to adopt children is just pushing it too far! I'm not saying they wouldn't make good parents but for the child it's too confusing and they would suffer too much abuse from their peers, it's not fair to the child.
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hmmm. Lots of kids are raised by one parent...is this odd too?

Or by one grandparent.
 
I doubt kids would get hassled for being raised by one parent/grandparent...but when Billy has 2 daddies or 2 mommies, you can guarantee that he is going to suffer some kind of psychological trauma...as a small child he may be fine b/c he doesn't know better, but as he reaches his teen years and sees other kids with both a mother and father (or one mother/father) he will face some major issues...when he begins discovering his sexuality don't you think he will be a little confused when he sees his parents being affectionate with each other?
 
lets keep it on subject....IMHO there is absolutely no reason why gays shouldnt be able to marry, i think its discrimanatory to refuse them marriage

just me opinion
 
PinK233 said:
I doubt kids would get hassled for being raised by one parent/grandparent...but when Billy has 2 daddies or 2 mommies, you can guarantee that he is going to suffer some kind of psychological trauma...
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Been there, done that ... this isn't true.
 
NO.

On the subject of gays, my sister and her husband just got divorced, my sisters husband just admitted he has feelings for MEN.

:mad:

I always new he was a bit gay. Why in the fuck did he wait 10 years to admit it?! My poor sister, I'm not a fan of gays at the moment.
 
SeXKiTTen_CanDy said:
NO.

On the subject of gays, my sister and her husband just got divorced, my sisters husband just admitted he has feelings for MEN.

:mad:

I always new he was a bit gay. Why in the fuck did he wait 10 years to admit it?! My poor sister, I'm not a fan of gays at the moment.
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And be subject to :mad: ! That's why. I never come 'out' in the real world unless there is a special circumstance.

Many of us spend time in deep denial....or think we can change ourselves. Gay is not a 'choice'. It just happens, and most of us think we can change our sexuality...99 times out of 100 this is not possible. I've tried...lord knows.

I came out early (meaning, I had these feelings at a young age, and knew early I was 'different'). My mother scolded the tomboy out of me, ostensibly, thus my feminine look and carriage.

But it really didn't work...I existed with the pain, in the meantime, of not being able to please someone I loved.
 
JonnyFiveIsAlive! said:
why would your sister marry a sissy man? funny on talk shows how its pretty obvious how a man is gay yet their wife acts like she had no clue.
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:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:

if you only knew. Some of the straightest acting/looking men/women are gay. Did you ever see that thing on HBO sports where they interviewed professional athletes that happened to be gay?
 
This conversation tangent reminds me of the SNL skit last week with the 'girl with no gaydar'.

She goes to the party, and hits on all the obviously gay men...

guess you had to be there.
 
kingjohn said:
Strongchick-

you should have asked if communists can marry bull dykes bc they are the only sort of orientations that affect you, you pig.
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Yeah baby...that's more like it....hate on...hate on....lovely.

Note the thick sarcasm. I urge you to stop your madness before you hurt someone for real.

You are very scary, because you mean it. I see you now, on the news, handcuffed and arrested for beating some innocent senseless because you have no idea how to love.


...and out of your 4.2 posts per day, this is all you can manage?
 
strongchick said:
This conversation tangent reminds me of the SNL skit last week with the 'girl with no gaydar'.

She goes to the party, and hits on all the obviously gay men...
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I remember that. She's like "what's my dad doing at this party?" Then you see Will Farrel wearing leather with a dog collar.
 
strongchick said:
well?

I think so...less partner trading. More rights for the couple.
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I would have no problem marrying a gay woman. ;) In either case, what's good for the goose, is good for the gander...

C
 
I must say, he was definitely a sissy.

Still, he shouldn’t have kept it a secret for 10 years. Sometimes I think that he only married to please his parents and to not have to confess his gayness. I mean, he does love my sister, and his kids, but Please, 10 years!? Those 10 bloody years my sister could have spent with someone more honest.

I would be so hurt if my boyfriend told me he was into men, I would feel SICK and disgusted. How dare he be with my when he has feelings for men.
 
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