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should affirmative action be abolished?

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i believe that the best qualified person for a job should get that job period. giving jobs or academic admission to the less qualified only weakens the institution, the city, the state, and our country. sure there are positives to this rule, but the negatives far outweigh the positives.

can you imagine if basketball or hockey had some type of affirmative action rule where there needs to be an equal number of black, white, hispanic, and asian players? lmao! :rolleyes: obvsiously the games would not be as competitive.
 
Thats very right winged :). I understand where you're coming from (best qualified people getting jobs/academic positions). I don't know anything about sports =/ or how different nationalities fare
 
The Red Dragon said:
Thats very right winged :). I understand where you're coming from (best qualified people getting jobs/academic positions). I don't know anything about sports =/ or how different nationalities fare

if you read my posts about the war you'd swear i have 2 left feet lol. afterall, i was the one who suggested that bush jr, clinton, and bush sr should apologize to the arab world and withdraw troops from their lands and stop supporting isreal...

i'm both left and right... just a confused child i suppose...
 
2Thick said:
As soon as all people in America are treated equally (or equitably), then we should get rid of AA.

wow....At least is better than 99,99% of the world...
 
Sundance said:


wow....At least is better than 99,99% of the world...

Maybe the 3rd world.

The US is last in everything in the developed world.

Highest poverty
Largest gap between rich and poor
Highest number of children in poverty
Highest number of HIV
Highest number of people in prison (per capita)
highest number of drug users

so on and so forth

USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! (so on and so forth)
 
2Thick said:


Maybe the 3rd world.

The US is last in everything in the developed world.

Highest poverty
Largest gap between rich and poor
Highest number of children in poverty
Highest number of HIV
Highest number of people in prison (per capita)
highest number of drug users

so on and so forth

USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! (so on and so forth)

I am moving to Canada...Socialist Republic of Canda here I come...better help me out..
 
Sundance said:


I am moving to Canada...Socialist Republic of Canda here I come...better help me out..

Do not get me wrong, I love the USA. It is one of the world's greatest countries but it is just in a dark period right now.

Canada has her share of problems. Trust me, when you pay almost 50% income tax you start to like the US a lot more.
 
2Thick said:
As soon as all people in America are treated equally (or equitably), then we should get rid of AA.


I agree, and it's hard for a white boy to know how hard it is for a black person to land a decent job with or without a degree, experience, etc.
 
i know severl rich black people, mostly from parent smoney, and let themt ellyou how they were so oppressed haivng a bmw in hghschool neve rlfiting a finger and its all because of th ewhite man and slavery tehy ignore the fact that they never did shit and just want a hand out, who can blame them who wouldn;t wnat a hand out, an in the immortal words of my family member i am going to begin puttig african american donw on forms very few forms dictate what % you need to be, and civilization orignated in aprt from africa,
 
I agree that afirmative action should be abolished.

If I was black I would be even more vocal about abolishing it.

It is an admission that they can't compete with the white majority without preferential treatment.

A perfect case in point is the New York Times. The reporter who lied, plagerized and committed fraud would have been fired a long time ago if he were white, but he was a minority and was given preferential treatment.
 
yea, last time i checked america is free if your a slackass and don't want to be rich its your fault, if your poor and black college is free, poor and white, you pay for your balack neighbors tution look it up
 
Hengst said:
I agree that afirmative action should be abolished.

If I was black I would be even more vocal about abolishing it.

It is an admission that they can't compete with the white majority without preferential treatment.

A perfect case in point is the New York Times. The reporter who lied, plagerized and committed fraud would have been fired a long time ago if he were white, but he was a minority and was given preferential treatment.

Finally an intelligent statement, unlike 2thicks ignorant unamerican comments. I hope you dont live in the US bro, it would be insane if you were bashing the US like you do yet you live here and benefit from living in the most prosperous country in the world.
 
HANSEL said:


Finally an intelligent statement, unlike 2thicks ignorant unamerican comments. I hope you dont live in the US bro, it would be insane if you were bashing the US like you do yet you live here and benefit from living in the most prosperous country in the world.

What did I say that was un-American?

Facts are facts.
 
2Thick said:


Maybe the 3rd world.

The US is last in everything in the developed world.

Highest poverty
Largest gap between rich and poor
Highest number of children in poverty
Highest number of HIV
Highest number of people in prison (per capita)
highest number of drug users

so on and so forth

USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! (so on and so forth)

The first four are wrong. To the last two all I can say is "so what?"
 
2Thick said:


Go to the library, open a few book and look them up for yourself. I am not your fucking teacher.

If you find information to the contrary then post it up. Otherwise be quiet like a good little boy.

Professor 2thick no more:confused:
 
DcupSheepNipples said:


Professor 2thick no more:confused:

I am sick and tired of teaching all of these idiots about the world.

If they do not believe me then good for them, because living in ignorance is better than being cursed with knowledge.

Every country needs their plebeian and intelligencia. I just realized why there are always so few of the latter.
 
2Thick said:


I am sick and tired of teaching all of these idiots about the world.

"Teaching"? You mean we are supposed to take your rhetoric as correct?

If they do not believe me then good for them, because living in ignorance is better than being cursed with knowledge.

Did a smart man once tell you that?

Every country needs their plebeian and intelligencia. I just realized why there are always so few of the latter.

That is because so many, like yourself, use their brain for stuffing in a skull.

I knew that you would not answer the questions.
 
*** said:
i believe that the best qualified person for a job should get that job period. giving jobs or academic admission to the less qualified only weakens the institution, the city, the state, and our country. sure there are positives to this rule, but the negatives far outweigh the positives.

can you imagine if basketball or hockey had some type of affirmative action rule where there needs to be an equal number of black, white, hispanic, and asian players? lmao! :rolleyes: obvsiously the games would not be as competitive.

actually, NFL Europe has a rule like that. They require a certain amount of players must come from the country the team plays in. BUt otherwise, you are right!
 
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the basic premise of Affirmative Action assumes that in EVERY situation minoritities will be discriminated against. It assumes that every time a white male is in a position of authority, he will use the position to oppress a minority.

Affirmative Action at its core assumes guilt before its proven. Isnt one of the founding idea of this country "innocent until proven guilty" ?

Affirmative Action is as racist as you can get.... it automatically assumes a negative behavior in a specific race and sex and that the behavior will always exist.

Its wrong on so many levels. The worst part is that its used against white males. Go to any college, civil service or government office and see the overwhelming majority of minorities working there... IN SPITE of the fact that white males STILL make up the VAST majority of qualified applicants.

One basic fact that people fail to see is that affirmative action counts the entire pool of each race to determine balance.... unfotunately... such a small percantage of blacks and mexicans lack the basic educational or job requirements to fill these positions that they are almost guaranteed a job with minimal experience.

A white male has to be so overqualified to even be considered for many of these positions (i.e college instructor).

and dont give me that shit about them not having equal opportunities for education.. if you're a minority they line you up for grants and loans..... and NEVER ONCE in any class registration did they ask me what race I was.... but how many blacks or Mexicans did I see in 3 years of Calculus, Chemistry and Engineering??? ONE.

A scolarship for blacks only... a scholarship for mexicans only...

If someone started a scholarship for whites only... they would get fried in the press.

They CHOOSE not to pursue relevant degrees and study simplistic subjects in Liberal Arts programs.... then are practically guaranteed a job because they are one of they VERY few minorities with an education.
 
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well if you dont want to be called a racist then I think thats your only course of action...


err wait.... ummm... now you've just confused the issue.
 
nice6pac said:
wrong son norway has a higher per capita income and more vacation time, sorry,

wrong son, norway has a higher percapita income when converted to US dollars, BUT the buying power of that dollar in Norway is far less than it is here. The US is the wealthiest nation per capita with the most access to goods and services. The US also has the most opportunities to raise that income.
 
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