Short Cycle, Test prop/npp

[JuicedAthletics]

Bro, you have to learn your own body..

I have stayed on test for over a year, have done 3-4 week cycles and have done 8-12 week cycles. Pretty much everything in between as well.

I dont always choose short cycles but they have their place. I tend to enjoy 4-6 week cycles. I usually put on 4-6 pounds from them. I use a couple short esters and an oral. Right now I am running suspension, npp and winstrol.. Ill take about 6-8 weeks off and then run a similar cycle but with anavar instead of the winstrol..

The reason I like shorter cycles is because I feel I can recover much quicker and my body is under stress for far less time. Its difficult dieting and gorging myself for over 8 weeks, plus gains seem to stop around then as well.

I am at the point where I am happy with 2-4 pounds kept per cycle, so I guess it all depends on where you are and what you are looking for as well.

 

[jasonxxx]

Bro, you have to learn your own body..

I have stayed on test for over a year, have done 3-4 week cycles and have done 8-12 week cycles. Pretty much everything in between as well.

I dont always choose short cycles but they have their place. I tend to enjoy 4-6 week cycles. I usually put on 4-6 pounds from them. I use a couple short esters and an oral. Right now I am running suspension, npp and winstrol.. Ill take about 6-8 weeks off and then run a similar cycle but with anavar instead of the winstrol..

The reason I like shorter cycles is because I feel I can recover much quicker and my body is under stress for far less time. Its difficult dieting and gorging myself for over 8 weeks, plus gains seem to stop around then as well.

I am at the point where I am happy with 2-4 pounds kept per cycle, so I guess it all depends on where you are and what you are looking for as well.

Nice to hear man!

But its hard to make a first time choose that feels 100% right, I guess most first time injectors had a hard time to decide.

I been thinking about deca for o about 2 years and been reading alot on different forums, and now latly I read much more about NPP and thats the way I been introduced to the short cycles. I´m aware of many injections but its ok.

The main reason I want to do a few short ones first is as you say, to learn my own body and for healthy aspects and recovery.

One thing I learned from my dbol cycles was that I got a bad lower back pump after work out, do you think it will be even worse with a higher dosage stacked with inject gears? If so, I think I wont do anymore dbols!

More tips are welcome

 

[boston789]

I have a feeling short cycle are going to become more and more popular.

 

[niv]

Have you looked into the alleged weakening of connective tissue that is purported to be an issue over the first three weeks of a cycle?

"researchers have suggested that steroids cause a rapid increase in protein synthesis within tendon fibroblasts which results in fibroids or fibrous nodules within the tendon (Michna,1988). These fibroids alter the mechanical properties of the tendon perhaps predisposing it to rupture. It is also noted that during short term use of steroids there is an alteration in the alignment of collagen fibers which may also lead to rupture. Interestingly these alterations in collagen metabolism are transient with markers of collagen turnover returning more or less to baseline after 3-4 weeks of steroid administration (Karpakka,1992)."

that's great info.. felt it but couldn't explain it

 

[jasonxxx]

I will study the "perfect" PCT for the coming weeks to be sure, thanks!

Ok guys, I´ve decided, since it will be my first inject cycle and I am not in hurry and I really want to learn how my body responds, I´ve decided to just go a Test prop - cycle!

I dont want to inject more then eod for this cycle so which dose is preferable:
#1: 150mg eod (525mg/w)
#2: 200mg eod (700mg/w)

Frontload???

If I choose #1, will 30mg dbol/d (4wk´s) be good to add without problems, or should I be satisfied without?

If I choose #2 should I add anything at all or is it just to much for a first time cycle?

One more thing!
I had lowerback pump problems with my dbol 10mg/d cycle, will I for sure get it again from a higher dose?

Thanks guys!

 

[JuicedAthletics]

You dont need to front load with prop. You will feel the prop within the first week as it is..
Run the prop solo. Go with 100-150 EOD, if its your first cycle. Sit back and enjoy bro..

 

[jasonxxx]

Ok guys, I made my descision:

Prop 150mg EOD!

After 4 weeks I will analyze my gains and decide If I will keep going a few more weeks.

How much calories over maintanance do you guys eat if your goal is to put on lbm with as little bf as possible?

Will up my protein to 250-300/d!

Any thoughts?

 

[solidspine]

So I missed the logic of the short cycle, what is the reason for these short spurt cycles?

I cut a cycle to 4 weeks without PCT; fortunately the parole board was reasonable so I picked it up 18 months later,

 

[jasonxxx]

So I missed the logic of the short cycle, what is the reason for these short spurt cycles?

I cut a cycle to 4 weeks without PCT; fortunately the parole board was reasonable so I picked it up 18 months later,

I dont know if it´s allowed to post links to other sites (got a bunch of short cycle threads from other forums)

Basically its for health and recovery reasons and you dont have to be "of" for that long. Hopefully the gains stays with very little lbm loss.

 

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