Short Cycle Experiment

[MohawkMuscle]

I have been chatting with a few "experts" on short cycles. I am going to put the 2 cycles that were given to me. I am going to try one of them as an experiment. I want your opinions on them. I will give the results later.

Cycle #1
3 weeks in length
Day 1 + 4 250mg Omnadren
Day 1-21 50mg Winni

Cycle #2
2 weeks in length
Day1 500-750mg Omnadren
Day 1-14 50mg winni.

My goal is to use small mini cycles more often. Hopefully gaining quality muscle. No more yo-yo effect...

I will give my before and after stats.

Here is a brief history of me incase no one know me.

First cycle 18years old test! lots of it. Length? 2-3 years maybe... Oh, your suppose to cycle in 8-12 weeks cycles???? (no sides thank god)

First real cycle in about 5 years was last year
6 weeks
fina 50mg eod
winni 50mg eod
test 200mg week

Gained 25lbs. I hit 247 lean!!

Last cycle 2 -3months ago
8 weeks
IP Sus 600mg week
winni 50mg ED
Last 6 weeks
T3

Gains? went from 230 up to 240. Hit the t3 and went down to 217 8% fat.

 

[Lift Chief]

Cycles look alright although i would think using all short acting gear would give you best results. Either way- i'll be interested to hear how you do.

 

[nautica]

Don't understand why you would use a long acting ester in short cycles.

The game is to get the juice in as quick as you can and get it out as clean as you can.

also, how long are you planning on staying off between cycles???

Nautica

 

[galaxy]

If you dont want the yo yo effect, just stay on low doses. 200-400mgs test a week as cruising dose should nt do any harm.......galaxy

 

[OMEGA]

bet your IP sus was fake
Mohawk fuck that guy

any way good luck =)

 

[DrZaius]

After doing a bit of research I am going to try a short cycle myself:

2 Weeks of Prop 75mg/day, D-bol 35mg/day.

I've heard mixed opinions about using clomid at the end of short cycles. What do you guys think? Thanks

Peace
DrZ

 

[DeepZenPill]

After doing a bit of research I am going to try a short cycle myself:

2 Weeks of Prop 75mg/day, D-bol 35mg/day.

I've heard mixed opinions about using clomid at the end of short cycles. What do you guys think? Thanks

Peace
DrZ

Clomid certainly couldn't hurt. Better safe than sorry. But even without it, on just 2 weeks I doubt your HPTA will get shut down as hard as a longer cycle, so it may be easier to start natural production again without any aids.

I'm sure someone else knows better than I do though.

 

[DrZaius]

Bump...

 

[DrZaius]

bump...

 

[DangerousGrounds]

I keep most gains on looongg cycles.

 

[MohawkMuscle]

DAY 1 STATS Decided to go with cycle #2

Weight 224lbs
fat% 9%

 

[Andy13]

DO go to mesomorphosis.com and read Bill Roberts' article on short cycles..

It's EXACTLY what you want.

Andy

 

[MohawkMuscle]

Well tomorow is my stat day. I honesty dont think I gained anything. My weights flucuate between 224-226. Fat is about the same. I dont really see a difference in the mirror or in the gym. Screw it.. Next cycle I will do what I said in my Omna cycle....

But my results will be in tomorow.

 

[crash3837]

bump

 

[40Ngrowin]

If i might weigh in.....i've been doing two week cycles for quite awhile now. I'm doing them with two weeks on and 4 weeks off.
The theory is that 2 weeks isn't enough time for the juice to mess up you liver values so these short cycles are much safer. Also, it is possible to do one hell of alot of juice for 2 weeks with absolutely no side effects. Perhaps the best reason to use this method, is that you look like you are slowly gaining throughout the year instead of having to explain to people why your weight cycles 20 pounds or more when you are off versus on. I use a d'bol bridge for the first 3 of the 4 week period that i am off the juice. 20 mg a day the first thing in the morning when you wake up. This won't hamper your natural test recovery. I'm usually able to gain 8 to 10 pounds on a two week cycle. I know some of you are laughing at that and thinking "that's not shit, i gained 40 pounds on my 16 week cycle" true, but how much of that did you lose during the 16 weeks you were supposed to be off? I don't usually lose but 2 or 3 pounds while "off". So at in the worst possible scenerio, that's 5 pounds of real mucle in 6 weeks. Now do that all year long and you may gain 40 pounds of real muscle, while being off two thirds of the amount of time you were on. That translates into being an "old" bodybuilder some day instead of a dead one.
My cycle looks something like this: day 1-13 125mg of test prop., frontloading 200 mg on day one and two. day 1-13 75 mg of tren, frontloading 150mg on day one and two. 40 mg of dbol on day 1-14. I use clomid throughout 50 mg day while on and while off and i use HCG while on. I come down off the juice light as a feather and can hardly notice much of a change from off to on, except weight gain. Hope this helps. I'd like to hear from some of you who are trying this.

 

[MohawkMuscle]

DAY 1 STATS Decided to go with cycle #2

Weight 224lbs
fat% 9%


week 2 stats

A.M Weight 228lbs

My fat came out to be like 12% Maybe I messed up the caliper test. But if this is true it looks like I lost muslce and gained fat... NOt very good...

Screw short cycles...didnt work for me...

 

[Triple J]

week 2 stats

A.M Weight 228lbs

My fat came out to be like 12% Maybe I messed up the caliper test. But if this is true it looks like I lost muslce and gained fat... NOt very good...

Screw short cycles...didnt work for me...

Regardless of cycle type, these results say SOMETHING WRONG

 

[MohawkMuscle]

Im gonna do the test tomorow morning and check with the results. Cause before I went to bed I ate 1/2 a pizza! So maybe I had more bloat this morning. Cause the day before I weighed the same... 224

 

[MohawkMuscle]

Well I decided to use the cycle for another week then cut the dose to half then 1/4 during the week. I found that in 2 weeks I didnt notice anything. But come week three I started getting those hard pumps etc. So I wll do what Nelson recommended and stay on for 3 weeks then taper week 4.


I will have my results up on the last day.

 

[OMEGA]

could it be that your stuff is fake?

 

[MohawkMuscle]

well the omnas are legit..

the winnis are IP.

Many people have tried this batch and loved it. So Im sure they are not fake. Then again with IP you never know...

but 40 cents per pill as opposed to 8$ per shot of winni depot.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

I don't think the claiper method is a very accurate way to test bodyfat. Especially, if you were bloated from eating a pizza.

I was ll geared up to do 2 week cycles, but I think I will switch to the 3 week... with a one week taper of primo acetate. I think that will be the ticket.