Shake your QV 250 50ml

[Snarf]

On my last cycle I bought a bottle of QV 250 Test Enanthate 50ml. I was using the 10ml previously and had minor site injection pain. When I went to the 50ml bottle the pain was much worse.

I tried all the regular advice on reducing site pain, but it still hurt and knotted up for 3-5 days each time. One week I decided to shake the bottle up well before I injected. Don't know why I did it, but it seemed worth a try. After shaking it, I had minimal site pain. I thought it was a fluke so continued to shake it up for the nest 3 weeks of injections with hardly any pain. Just to test my theory, I injected this week with no shaking and it hurts like hell with a big knot and a red, hot area around the injections site.

My advice: shake it every time. The only reason I can think of why this helps is the that the BA must be seperating out from the oil slightly so when you draw the oil, you are getting a mega dose of BA. Could be something else, not really sure, but I do believe it helps a lot.

I almost gave up on the 50ml bottle, but it is so cheap and now I found a way to make it bearable.

Good luck.

 

[dzuljas]

hmm sounds good mabye i'll have to try ti sometime

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Good info.

 

[Snarf]

I've also been shaking up my home-brew tren and it seems to help too, although the improvement is not as dramatic. Most Fina kits have a high BA content so I am guessing that is why it helps.

 

[MeLikeProp]

damn bro, good info, thanks for sharing

 

[solidspine]

Thank you, I will be using QV products starting Jan 1, and have a tone of their test and fina.

 

[Animal]

Wow, that's some bad chemistry and at least the customer knows that QV is spending their dollar on 'Q'uality!

Anyhow, Te is LIQUID at ROOM TEMP!

To get 250mg/ml they shouldn't need any Ba at all.

Te WILL NOT xtallize out in the depot because body temp is higher than room temp, so the pain isn't coming from there.

If we look at other hormones used in BA, like Tren ace (Tra) and Tp and the like, as you found, you WILL have to shake them because over time the BA seperates OUT from the oil because the low solubility in oil hormones are held in solution almost entirely by the BA and when that BA is holding the hormone in solution it's not binding so well to the oil because its ability to solvate is used up and you get the seperation you see/feel.

So what does all that mean? I'll let you figure it out, but I'll leave you by repeating that Te requires minimal BA and should never seperate out while shorter/cheaper esters will seperate out!

 

[Snarf]

I don't think Test Enanthate is liquid at room temp, it melts at close to body temp according to my data

TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ENANTHATE
(SAME AS TESTOSTERONE HEPTANOATE)
melting point=32-36C
molecular weight=400.61
rotation= +84 C=1 CHCL3

I think what you are suggesting is that they are using a shorter/cheaper ester and that it is not enanthate. They charge less for the 50ml bottle versus the 10ml, so maybe they are using propionate to make up for the lower price? Has anybody had their QV 250 lab tested? The 250 hurts about the same as my QV Prop, so it does make me wonder, although I would like to find some other explanation.

Is it possible they use more BA in the 50ml to give it adequate shelf life since it takes longer to use up and there is a greater volume to make sure you have a homogeneous solution?