Serum Test?

[bigjxxl]

Hey guys. Well its been a while since I've been on the board and I finally broke down and bought a Platinum membership.

Here is a little backround on myself:
24
6'3
215lbs currently
Training on and off for 10 yrs
first time juiceing 16
# of cycles 12approx

I am getting some blood work done as I suspect I have low test(low sex drive ,lack of energy,atrophied left nut.

The doc is doing bloodwork for serum testosterone.Is this the right test?

The second question is he told me if it comes back low he is gonna put me on androgel. when I asked about HCG to restore testicular size he said that was cheating. Figure that out?


I was thinkin of doing an Hcg \Clomid cycle but it will be hard to tell where I'm at if the doc isn't willing to do further blood tests

I'm only 24 and I dont wanna have to be on HRT for the rest of my life. What are my other options?

 

[patsfan1379]

^^

 

[r1]

I think you're gonna need some regular lab work to monitor your progress and see how your body is responding to treatment. I was on Androderm (patch) and Androgel (gel) before using Depotestosterone (shot), but the prior 2 gave me skin irritations and only marginally changed my Test levels.

The initial "comprehensive" test that I did to get on HRT included:

Total Testosterone (my score = 212; healthy range = 240-827)
Free Testosterone (my score = 13.0; healthy range = 9.5-43.0)
Leutenizing Hormone (my score = 5.1; healthy range = 2.0-18.0)

As others here have mentioned, getting your Estradiol (E2) and SHBG tested would be beneficial as well. Your doc may insist that the tests are not needed and might go on the defense if you start acting like you know more than him. That's the problem I generally have with the docs I see. The training that they receive may say that the tests aren't mandatory, but you're an atypical case.

As far as long-term, I think you should first try to get your body to cooperate with the HRT and then take it from there. That's what I'm trying to do.

Sonny

 

[Mr. Black]

I'd ask to get your prolactin checked as well.

 

[bigjxxl]

Hey thanks very much guys. I got my test results back and and I am assuming the test was for Free testosterone.

Mine was 10.2 I was told normal was 9.0 to 29 so obviously I am on the low side.

I will talk to the doc and see if he will do the other tests as well. I hope he doesn't give me some bullshit answer like " well your in the normal range so there's nothing wrong with you"

If he isn't willing to comply I will have to go to a men's clinic I guess.

Anybody know any good ones in Eastern Ontario?

 

[Mr. Black]

If I were you I'd find another doc. In the mean time I'd run a serious HCG/Nolva/Clomid cycle...refer to this thread

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=184506

 

[bigjxxl]

Thanks bro, awsome post. I do remember reading it some time ago, but that was a great refresher. I think I'm gonna run that asap.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

YOur doctor is a moron " HCG is cheating"

thats th ewhole point...hios job is to help you cheat your system to be healthy..jezz.
GO back to that doctor and tell himn "YOUR FIRED" stupid prick must of forgotten tha the works for you..not the other way around...i hav ehad this happen also with doctors... you must finda goo done who know his stuff

 

[bigjxxl]

I think your right. He is an idiot, at first he was trying to prescribe me anti depressants for my" lack of sex drive and decreased energy"
even after i told him about the steroid use he was still tryin to push them.

When I told him 1 nut was shrunk he said "so what ,you dont have to worry about that unless your trying to have kids"

I think I'm on the right track now so thanks

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I swear bro id say a good percentage of doctors are complete utter morons,, a large percentage areheroes and geniouses though...ive personally known of at least 4 doctors who hav ejeoperdazied misdiagnosed and fucked up or could of f d up a few of my family members.....i always play tricks when choosing a doctor...you should check education ...rank in calss. etc... references....ask to see record( how many bad operations diaggnoses law suits etc)......then ask him soem questions you know....see if he performs th ecorrect diagnosis..this is what i do with all my doctors ...becouse i know how they can be....i had 1 doctor tell me that i shoul dcircumsize my penis becouse the skin was too tight!!!!Stupid moron....also told me im a diabetic...i had to diagnos emyself and found out it was do to hormonal changes caused by juice.....stupid doctor didi not tell me this and told me im probibaly a diabetic even though he was aware of the hormone imbalance.....and i did fix that situation in a diferent way..