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jiggagold
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redshirt27se
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I get more LOLz @ him forcing bad shots when Wade is wide open. How long before the team turns on him?
calveless wonder
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Watching the heat crash and burn has been one of the few enjoyable things in my life for the past week
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lartinos
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Le Brick is what he is. When it comes down to a big situation Wade is a proven guy. When the Heat won the Championship he was jordon/kobe like in that no one could guard him. I haven't really watched much BB this season, but I've seen enough of Le Brick to know what he is and isn't good at.
redshirt27se
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the funny thing is that getting Mike Bibby is actually a huge improvement for them at PG.
they are so one dimensional.
they are so one dimensional.
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lartinos
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They were fools to never get a PG to begin with. They need to run up and down the floor this line up and they can be good, half court type games they will lose.
Lambruh
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A good pg wont do anything, just like d fisher doesnt, wade n bron play the point anyways. Heat don't need anything, the talent is overwhelming. Its what they dont need...
They don't need to be playing LeIso n wade iso all 4thq. They don't need LeBron outside the arc, they don't need players not believing in their coach. And especially they don't need spoelestra coaching
If you can't run a offense with those three lmao.. they lose close games and clutch oppurtunities because the staff can't draw up shit and noone on that team believes in his shit system.
Last yrs cavs were better than this heat team. And that was with mike brown lol
They don't need to be playing LeIso n wade iso all 4thq. They don't need LeBron outside the arc, they don't need players not believing in their coach. And especially they don't need spoelestra coaching
If you can't run a offense with those three lmao.. they lose close games and clutch oppurtunities because the staff can't draw up shit and noone on that team believes in his shit system.
Last yrs cavs were better than this heat team. And that was with mike brown lol
calveless wonder
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D fisher was a huge part of the lakers wins. Defensively and clutch shot wise. He is one of the best timely buckets role player in the game for the past 15 years
i understand your point, it was just a bad example.
Lambruh
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Fisher is an atrocious defender,
been for a half decade, that's not even worth the lol. Just like LeBron/wade, kobe brings it up half court 75% of the time. Thus the basic comparison. (Its not really something to crack a goofy debate)
90s bulls didnt need one, nor early spurs, nor LAs 3peat, nor 06 heat, 08 rondo wasn't even gaurded (kobe/bron roamed off him), 09-10 fisher. All champs with par/sub-par pg
3 top 15 players on one team, 2 ball dominant wings, don't need a pg threat. If cp3 played on the heat, he wouldn't even get touches, just like he didn't with lbj/kobe/bosh starting in the olympics
been for a half decade, that's not even worth the lol. Just like LeBron/wade, kobe brings it up half court 75% of the time. Thus the basic comparison. (Its not really something to crack a goofy debate)
90s bulls didnt need one, nor early spurs, nor LAs 3peat, nor 06 heat, 08 rondo wasn't even gaurded (kobe/bron roamed off him), 09-10 fisher. All champs with par/sub-par pg
3 top 15 players on one team, 2 ball dominant wings, don't need a pg threat. If cp3 played on the heat, he wouldn't even get touches, just like he didn't with lbj/kobe/bosh starting in the olympics
calveless wonder
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Good point about the PG thing, and like i said, i agree in the case of the heat. As far as the teams you picked though, when you count the bulls and lakers (9 titles), they all ran the same triangle offense because of MJ and kobe. In that system the point guard just needs to be able to hit open 3's.
you can definitely win without a great point guard provided you have certain personnel.
as far as the heat, their bench is atrocious. They're missing size (the dinosaurs/bums they have don't count because they're useless) and role players that can actually hit shots and play good defense. mike miller has been hot garbage, and chalmers is a bum.
Lambruh
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The role players make everything, the last few yrs: Bowens, Posey, Ariza, Pietrus, Varajao, Artest, guys that should really get more recognition. Players that check the other teams best player to 6-22 shooting and media says "Kobe/Lebron had an off game", in actuality it's the role defenders from the opposing team knowing their ROLE on the team and executing it.
The only "roles" for the role players on the Heat are spot up shooters, they don't have grimey guys like a Perkins to bang in the paint, they don't even have a single guy that can post. That's why they won't win this year + the coach. Next season it's basically up to Bosh + Lebron + Wade to come to some agreement that 2 of the 3 must put some talents to side and play a specific role. Whether it's Lebron in the post 80% of the time, Bosh actually growing a sack getting in the paint playing defense + hitting the boards full time or Wade playing a full time slasher. Look at the 08 Celtics, Allen/Garnett/Pierce all were highlight players on their old squads and instantly after coming to the Celts they sacrificed the 66% limelight to play a certain piece. Imagine if Ray Allen and Pierce just ran Iso's back n forth or Garnett was just camping in the elbow not getting dirty. That's what Miami big three is, a bunch of arrogant super talents that won't put some abilities on standby to play a certain role for a championship. Like yah we all know Lebron can pass like a PG, but they don't NEED lebron to pass, they NEED lebron to dominate down low like he could. Yah bosh has mid-range + can score, but they NEED his ass to focus on out hustling the Gasol's/Duncans/Garnetts and taking those guys out of rythm.
Edit: The Heat and Cleveland are both 4-6 in the last 10 games
The only "roles" for the role players on the Heat are spot up shooters, they don't have grimey guys like a Perkins to bang in the paint, they don't even have a single guy that can post. That's why they won't win this year + the coach. Next season it's basically up to Bosh + Lebron + Wade to come to some agreement that 2 of the 3 must put some talents to side and play a specific role. Whether it's Lebron in the post 80% of the time, Bosh actually growing a sack getting in the paint playing defense + hitting the boards full time or Wade playing a full time slasher. Look at the 08 Celtics, Allen/Garnett/Pierce all were highlight players on their old squads and instantly after coming to the Celts they sacrificed the 66% limelight to play a certain piece. Imagine if Ray Allen and Pierce just ran Iso's back n forth or Garnett was just camping in the elbow not getting dirty. That's what Miami big three is, a bunch of arrogant super talents that won't put some abilities on standby to play a certain role for a championship. Like yah we all know Lebron can pass like a PG, but they don't NEED lebron to pass, they NEED lebron to dominate down low like he could. Yah bosh has mid-range + can score, but they NEED his ass to focus on out hustling the Gasol's/Duncans/Garnetts and taking those guys out of rythm.
Edit: The Heat and Cleveland are both 4-6 in the last 10 games
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