Serious Test E cycle question

[cmarcell]

Just to let you guys know...I'm 23 years old, about to turn 24. I'm 6'0", and 190 lbs. I've been weight lifting since I was 20 years old. I'm more of an ectomorph than anything else, although not entirely. I gain hard, but I work hard. I've been thinking about steroids for years. I was smart enough not to use it back a couple of years, and instead continued to wait. Here is my question. Your answers will decide which step to take.

I want to run a cycle. As of now, Test E would be the choice. Anywhere from 8-12 weeks. A small chance of adding in some Dbol for a few weeks only (my brother has 140 pills left over). An even smaller chance of adding some Deca. Most likely not, especially for a first cycle. People love the gains, but I don't want to take it too far. As you can see there is nothing set in stone. Why? Because I haven't decided whether to go forward or not.

Cycle wouldn't happen for a few weeks/months because I'm still finishing out my increases. Going slower, but still going.

QUESTION: Would one cycle, and one cycle only, do anything? I ask this because I don't want to be someone who runs 1-3 cycles a year. If anything I would do a cycle this year, maybe one in 18 months, something like that. But more importantly, I would have to see how much I like it. I could say, you know what, that wasn't worth it for me.

If I decided to stop after the first cycle, I would want to make sure I at least accomplished something while it lasted.

Anyway, let me know what you guys think about that. Feel free to include what you think I should do in terms of cycle if you think I should go ahead. I'll figure out the cycle first, PCT second.

 

[Beachboy6294]

My first cycle was Test E & Deca and I had great results probably the best for not using much!! I was on Test 200 mgs and Deca 300 mgs a week. I think my first cycle was 8 weeks but it could have been 10.

 

[str8nubin]

I honestly wouldn't expect psychologically, to be satisfied after 1 cycle. Most of us have achieved goals before but we're still on this board thanks to setting the bar higher each time. If you are consistently setting the bar higher for yourself, then where do you go after that one and only cycle?

The benefit of doing a cycle, it seems like most people who do their homework and run a cycle correctly hold on to a good deal of their gains from their first cycle, through thick and thin.

But if you can't gain at 190 nat, then what will be your motivation when you are suddenly 205-210 and made up your mind not to do a cycle? <- I bet you will love it and can't do just one.

Remember you have only been training for 3 years. You are the one telling yourself that you are a hardgainer and an ectomorph. Unless you have a diagnosed medical condition, then it is easy to understand the problem you are facing. You can't do something this gut busting if you've made up your mind you can't.

I tried to answer your question best as I could but you really need to think hard and hear these guys out for a bit. Read everything you can and get lots of sleep on the subject.

 

[Beachboy6294]

I honestly wouldn't expect psychologically, to be satisfied after 1 cycle. Most of us have achieved goals before but we're still on this board thanks to setting the bar higher each time. If you are consistently setting the bar higher for yourself, then where do you go after that one and only cycle?

The benefit of doing a cycle, it seems like most people who do their homework and run a cycle correctly hold on to a good deal of their gains from their first cycle, through thick and thin.

But if you can't gain at 190 nat, then what will be your motivation when you are suddenly 205-210 and made up your mind not to do a cycle? <- I bet you will love it and can't do just one.

Remember you have only been training for 3 years. You are the one telling yourself that you are a hardgainer and an ectomorph. Unless you have a diagnosed medical condition, then it is easy to understand the problem you are facing. You can't do something this gut busting if you've made up your mind you can't.

I tried to answer your question best as I could but you really need to think hard and hear these guys out for a bit. Read everything you can and get lots of sleep on the subject.

That is so true and what happened to me!! I said only one cycle yea right!

 

[cmarcell]

Thanks for the reply man. 2 things. 1. I reserve the right to change my mind about how many cycles I do haha. Theres a good chance if I did one, I'd do another. I would just spread it out more than I think a lot of people do.

2. I do have IBS which doesn't help with gains. But I can still eat a bunch. I've learned to live with it. Mass protein doesn't hurt either. But if I make the decision to go ahead, my mind will be there 100%. I wouldn't start if it wasn't, ya know?

 

[str8nubin]

Thanks for the reply man. 2 things. 1. I reserve the right to change my mind about how many cycles I do haha. Theres a good chance if I did one, I'd do another. I would just spread it out more than I think a lot of people do.

2. I do have IBS which doesn't help with gains. But I can still eat a bunch. I've learned to live with it. Mass protein doesn't hurt either. But if I make the decision to go ahead, my mind will be there 100%. I wouldn't start if it wasn't, ya know?

Good deal bro sounds like you've really thought it through

 

[eddymerckx]

Thanks for the reply man. 2 things. 1. I reserve the right to change my mind about how many cycles I do haha. Theres a good chance if I did one, I'd do another. I would just spread it out more than I think a lot of people do.

2. I do have IBS which doesn't help with gains. But I can still eat a bunch. I've learned to live with it. Mass protein doesn't hurt either. But if I make the decision to go ahead, my mind will be there 100%. I wouldn't start if it wasn't, ya know?

there are a number of bros that find ibs is better--or in my bro-in-laws case, GONE on test....cannot explain it but he manage to isolate it--the only variable was test. hope it works for you.

and for a 1st (not the--b/c expect a 2nd.......) cycle, test or test and dbol only. with enth do 10 weeks.

 

[cmarcell]

I think the only reason I even considered Deca in the first place was because it seems with Test you don't keep as much gains as with Deca. It seems with Deca you keep and gain much more overall.

But yeah, I agree.

 

[eddymerckx]

I think the only reason I even considered Deca in the first place was because it seems with Test you don't keep as much gains as with Deca. It seems with Deca you keep and gain much more overall.

But yeah, I agree.

naw, keeping gains has do with pct and post-cycle diet and workouts

 

[Beachboy6294]

naw, keeping gains has do with pct and post-cycle diet and workouts

Yes way back in the dinosaur days when I did my first cycle I had never heard of pct!!

 

[eddymerckx]

Yes way back in the dinosaur days when I did my first cycle I had never heard of pct!!

you and me both--

 

[flajice]

naw, keeping gains has do with pct and post-cycle diet and workouts

exactly