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Serious Question about Investments

TxArmyGuy

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Very seriously how would ya'll invest $475,000

No holds bar. I've got some serious thoughts about how I'm going to invest a very large amount of $$ and will need to start making some arrangements within the next 2-4months

Give me some ideas for Stocks, Mutal funds, Bonds, Real Estate etc....
 
Talk to several stock brokers and tell them what you are looking for as far as returns and such. A good broker will set down with you and ask about the risks you are willing to take and so forth.

Since you are in the army I would look to go with one of the larger firms that have offices in other cities. You might get more personal service with a small firm, but when you move you might have a hard time getting in contact with them.
 
MEMEMMEMEEMM!!!!

Hi there...I am gotmilk and I would like to make you wealthy!

How about catching a 800 Million share short position this or next month? My Congressman's office is busting the SEC's balls to break it. Our lawyer is John O' Quinn from Houston. John won the Texas Tobacco lawsuit and the Dow Corning breast implant suit.

Shoot me an e-mail sometime and I'll hook you up.

Companies like Avici Systems in Massachusetts have nearly $3 a share in cash alone..yet look at their price. Or check out SunnComm....www.sunncomm.com

These guys are working with Microsoft on Microsoft's next operating platform..codenamed "Corona". Huge upside once they can get off the pinksheets in the next 90 days.
 
I forgot to add...in terms of real estate...which is booming right now. There are limited liability companies looking for private investors to put up money. These are companies who need funds to procure funds...basically, you put up money for 90 to 120 days and you can gain 15% to 25%. This works out to 60% to 75% annually.


Basically, you become your own banker and loan your money. These transactions are secured by insurance so there is no loss. This is how Donald Trumps friends became so wealthy.
 
yeah...let me find the name of one. One of the best was in Texas but they closed their fund recently. These guys have a huge property portfolio.

I'll send you some stuff tomorrow when I have a chance to type it out. I actually manage accounts for people only I do not do all the work. I help people set up accounts...teach them how to use the online brokers...and then tell people what/when/where.

If you get a chance....check out the June 10th Forbes magazine and the article about John O' Quinn, Esq. We are about to break some massive short positions this Summer thanks to John's investigations.
 
big4life said:
Talk to several stock brokers and tell them what you are looking for as far as returns and such. A good broker will set down with you and ask about the risks you are willing to take and so forth.

Since you are in the army I would look to go with one of the larger firms that have offices in other cities. You might get more personal service with a small firm, but when you move you might have a hard time getting in contact with them.

Bro, stay miles away from guys like GotMilk and listen to the advice you are getting from Big4Life.

I've lost an insane amount of money in the stock market - wiped out to ground zero - twice. (It truly sucks to rebuild only to blow it again.)

There are too many lessons you need to learn in the investment biz. While you learn them you need to place your assests in safe, secure investments. A couple reputable brokers can advise you on how to do that.

1. Do not take HOT tips from friends and people you meet over the internet. Hot tips are almost always losers... despite the sales pitch.
2. Do not invest in risk ventures. (Especially pre-IPO start ups.)
3. Have your broker diversify your assets.
4. Don't trade on margin - EVER.
5. Don't trade options - EVER.
 
lilly-ICOS..they will be making cialis...you will be making cash..actually i have looked into this co.,stock took a tumble after the FDA held up the release of cialis...but you know its cumming
 
Flip through the phone book and find your nearest office for A. G. Edwards or Edward Jones. Both are top notch, conservative investment brokerages. Each is full service and neither have any proprietary products.
 
4everhung said:
lilly-ICOS..they will be making cialis...you will be making cash..actually i have looked into this co.,stock took a tumble after the FDA held up the release of cialis...but you know its cumming

its allready here and it is hot--from what I read
 
fuck Ed jones..their local guy had my co. in both MCI and lucent..among other things..shit for brains
 
Why not take a CD out, Jumbo CD? They require mininum of 100,000 dollars.

Or invest in index mutual funds?

Just making suggestions.
 
4everhung said:
fuck Ed jones..their local guy had my co. in both MCI and lucent..among other things..shit for brains

But you loved him when you were making money. Don't feel so bad. Everybody got burned when the bubble burst.
 
Bro, I feel sorry for you. Looks like you will lose all your money very soon. Stay away from the stock market. Take my true and sincere advice. Brokerage firms are all frauds.

If you want to make some money. Invest in New York City real estate, and rent out your properties. Become a landlord. With the skyrocketing prices of NY real estate in 5 years you will double your money and have earned extra cash from the rental income. Real estate is the only way to go. Take my deepest and sincerest word, coming from a seasoned securities analyst. The stock market is a fraud, the only people that money are the people that fuck you over it.
 
TXarmyguy....Please forget all the "hot" tips, short selling, options, investments that "can't" lose, etc. Best advice I read was from sofa george. Forget the "full service" brokers...Edward Jones, etc. remember they get paid on a commission basis for product that they sell. If you are going to get financial planning go with a quality fee-only service that has no incentive to sell you anything.

Here are a few basic ideas to consider:

1. Fully fund your roth IRA each yr, if you are single the limit has been raised to $3000 per yr, Fully fund your 401k each yr, SEP, SIMPLE, Keogh, etc. (whichever applies to your situation)

2. keep your investment portfolio diversified

3. do not expect the returns of previous years (pre 2000), that was a bubble that is not going to repeat itself anytime soon
 
Bro, better Idea....Stay away from a broker and get a financial planner. They are two different things..anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant in the investment world. Big companies like ML and Pru have brokers who claim to do planning but it is nothing -kinda like calling Olive Garden authentic Italian food.


The best advice I can give you right now is forget there are even online brokers. And stay away from stock message boards...people there will try to inflate or deflate the price of a stock because they probably have options and will only make money by it going down...
SofaGeorge said:


Bro, stay miles away from guys like GotMilk and listen to the advice you are getting from Big4Life.

I've lost an insane amount of money in the stock market - wiped out to ground zero - twice. (It truly sucks to rebuild only to blow it again.)

There are too many lessons you need to learn in the investment biz. While you learn them you need to place your assests in safe, secure investments. A couple reputable brokers can advise you on how to do that.

1. Do not take HOT tips from friends and people you meet over the internet. Hot tips are almost always losers... despite the sales pitch.
2. Do not invest in risk ventures. (Especially pre-IPO start ups.)
3. Have your broker diversify your assets.
4. Don't trade on margin - EVER.
5. Don't trade options - EVER.
 
I am a financial planner. Although we are publicly traded, we do not have a seat on the exchage...we are also one of the largest and first financial planning companies in the country.
Getting rich quick is something that we do not believe in, our emphasis is long term wealth. Financial planning is actually a science that is very involved...After working for prudential and now at my new place I can tell you it is something very unique and unlike anything I've seen before.


mrbill said:
TXarmyguy....Please forget all the "hot" tips, short selling, options, investments that "can't" lose, etc. Best advice I read was from sofa george. Forget the "full service" brokers...Edward Jones, etc. remember they get paid on a commission basis for product that they sell. If you are going to get financial planning go with a quality fee-only service that has no incentive to sell you anything.

Here are a few basic ideas to consider:

1. Fully fund your roth IRA each yr, if you are single the limit has been raised to $3000 per yr, Fully fund your 401k each yr, SEP, SIMPLE, Keogh, etc. (whichever applies to your situation)

2. keep your investment portfolio diversified

3. do not expect the returns of previous years (pre 2000), that was a bubble that is not going to repeat itself anytime soon
 
Keep the ideas pouring in....

Huntmaster I plan on investing in some Good weapons and scopes, then putting away for a few hunting trips over the next couple of years.

Real Estate is something I want to explore. Does anyone have experience buying Real estate in Foreign countries? Europe? Latin America? Asia? Australia?
 
SofaGeorge said:
Bro, stay miles away from guys like GotMilk



Do you know me?

I was simply offering some free advice on where he can get free advice. Right now, he can open an online brokerage account and collect interest on his money. Far better rates than any bank will offer.

Fact: There are legitimate real estate development corporations who seek private investors to help with projects. Real estate is hot. You simply deposit money, they use the funds to increase their average deposit balance, and you make 10% to 15% per 120 to 150 day period. The best part is that all funds are insured by F.D.I.C. so you never lose your money. This is a little known fact that only wealthy investors know about because R.E.I.T.'s only seek a certain few investors, unless you have a connection.

Plus, if you paid attention....go back thru my posting history and see how many stock tips I gave that were correct.

SUNX from .03 to nearly .245
KMart's bounce from .78 to $1.85

I also posted on Elite to buy into Invision Technologies after 9/11 because they had the products to detect explosives. In fact, I also called the bounce from $13 to $5ish before it rocketed to nearly $50.

If you lost your shirt in the market....you have no one to blame but yourself unless you own one of the 104 penny stocks which were illegally short sold by offshore hedge funds. Check the 6/10 Forbes magazine article for a brief description about what John O' Quinn, ESQ. has discovered. The reason I know about these is because some of my information gets sent to John's Houston office.

Go back thru and you will see that 3 months before Anthony El-Gindy was arrested for manipulation, I was ragging on his ass and taunting about how his day was coming. Nothing like the FBI kicking your door down at 7 in the morning.

Victus called it correctly. TX does not need a "broker"...he needs a financial planner. Or...he needs to learn how to invest conservatively....CD's...savings....tax free municiple bonds...and keep a brokerage account active in case the market heats up again.

If you are afraid of online posters and advice from people you never met, why bother posting on Elite?
 
VicTusDeuS said:
I am a financial planner. Although we are publicly traded, we do not have a seat on the exchage...we are also one of the largest and first financial planning companies in the country.
Getting rich quick is something that we do not believe in, our emphasis is long term wealth. Financial planning is actually a science that is very involved...After working for prudential and now at my new place I can tell you it is something very unique and unlike anything I've seen before.

I am a Registered Representative/Stockbroker/Financial Planner, there is a HUGE difference. Make sure the person you go to has a CFP, Certified Financial Planner after their title. This is a 2 year program and most regular "stockbrokers" do not take the time to acquire one. Ask about what current licenses they hold and maintain, and how long they have been in the business and with that particular firm. A good broker should at least have a series 63,7,65, and 66 minimum and a history with the company they are representing.

I can only emphasize what has been said above. The person you meet with should do a full financial background and provide you with recommendations based on your risk tolerance and long term goals. You need to consider the funds/stocks 1,3,5, and 10 year average returns. Stay off the net, don't listen to friends "stock tips," and run from any brokerage firm that has a "stock of the day" recommendation. Investing is a personalized strategy and can vary greatly from one person to the next depending on age, income, prior investments, long and short term goals, and risk tolerance.

Just remember, if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

:angel:
 
VicTusDeuS said:
Bro, better Idea....Stay away from a broker and get a financial planner.

The best advice I can give you right now is forget there are even online brokers. And stay away from stock message boards...

Two more bits of absolute wisdom.

I shouldn't have said broker. I use three CFP's (but like an idiot I still call them my 'brokers').

And for God's sake listen to this bit of adivce on staying away from stock message boards. They will only make you sick, feed you misinformation, and eat up time in your day.

Prime personal example - when SNRS (now snrse.ob) was at $12 a share... I fully concentrated my account and fully extended on margin. I knew everything there was to know about the product and the company... and it was the most in the bag sure thing in the world... and I followed all of the SNRS message boards on Yahoo, Raging Bull, etc... Well, following FDA approval of their device... it promptly plummeted from $12 to $6... and now it is down to $.08 a share. Did I make a mistake? To this day I can honestly say NO. The technology was incredible.... way ahead of its time... and the use figures for the procedure are great. And I still lost. Stay away from stock message boards.
 
SofaGeorge said:
And for God sake listen to this bit of adivce on staying away from stock message boards. They will only make you sick, feed you misinformation, and eat up time in your day.

The Raging Bull is the pit of hell. I have to laugh at Lycos for allowing such a piece of crap as Janice Shell aka "janice456" for posting 40,000 messages there. Like her boss Richard Marchese is not shorting the entire penny market thru his chop shop via Merrill Lynch.

The next 3 months are going to be a trying time for investors and I would not want to be inexperienced. The illegal short sales thru Canada (HI Mark Valantine you P.O.S. @ Thomas Kernaghan) will need to be covered at some point. On the flip side...all the accounting scandals will cause further investor panic and the market will drop some more.

I can't wait to see what happens to Dick Chaney's Halliburton this Summer. Fudged books, deals with Iraq, paper fronts to hide the deals.
 
I shot some Karma to SofaGeorge. As another person who has been burned from a variety of angles, here is what I know:

1) Determine what you want to do with your many, where do you want it to go and why. If you have more windfalls coming and are not risk averse, then your decisions will be far different than if you are 40 with 2 kids nearing college.

2) Pay off all your high-interest debt, other than a house, mainly for its tax advantages.

3) CONSULT A TAX ATTORNEY. Financial planners are useful, but they rarely understand the ramifications of cash planning and liquidity.

4) Diversify your portfolio. Look for long term, dividend-oriented stocks, balanced with munis, 401-K, etc. If you want some adventure and want to be a day trader...set aside 25,000 to play with. When you burn it, walk away from the table.

5) Be wary of any investment advisor that steers you towards speculative businesses. Chances are they have a vested interest in this company.

6) Split your cash between several money managers.

7) Do your research on the accuracy of their analyst recommendations. There is a web site, and I cannot remember the name for the life of me, that gives you the track record of all of the major analysts.

8) If you have any business savvy...consider using some of it to start your own company after your discharge. One of the best investments you can make is in your own business with your own money. After all 37% of all millionaires own their own business!

CF
 
Regarding foreign investments; I wouldn't recommend International Real Estate. I'm personally selling foreign properties in Morocco where foreign investments dropped by 95% since last year!!!! (April data.) Real estate in the US is kinda high but safe and stable. Swiss real estate and banks are safe, it could be a good idea to invest for a winter/ski residence! The only problem is that if you inject your $ in overseas real estate, you won't be able to get any credit, therefore immobilizing a lot of $ which could be "making babies" in high yield investment accounts. I'll shortly find myself in the same position as you are and have decided to do the following:

1) Pay all high interest debts (small ones first)
2) Real Estate Investments; 20% down and loan for the rest.
3) CDs
4) Bonds
5) Stocks (mostly options/selling short)
6) about 1 year of living expenses in a Money Market (easy access for emergencies)

*** Don't put your $ at risk by investing in specific sectors; diversify !**
*** Do consult a financial planner/advisor***

Please don't hesitate to critique my post-hope this helps :)

Actually... There's a pretty good book out by David Bach "How Smart Women finish rich" I found it very useful for basic financial planning info, but since you're not a chick you may find it too women oriented (lotsa stats about women in business)MotleyFool is also a good source of basic info.
 
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Casablanca said:
Regarding foreign investments; I wouldn't recommend International Real Estate. I'm personally selling foreign properties in Morocco where foreign investments dropped by 95% since last year!!!! (April data.) Real estate in the US is kinda high but safe and stable. Swiss real estate and banks are safe, it could be a good idea to invest for a winter/ski residence! The only problem is that if you inject your $ in overseas real estate, you won't be able to get any credit, therefore immobilizing a lot of $ which could be "making babies" in high yield investment accounts. I'll shortly find myself in the same position as you are and have decided to do the following:

1) Pay all high interest debts (small ones first)
2) Real Estate Investments; 20% down and loan for the rest.
3) CDs
4) Bonds
5) Stocks (mostly options/selling short)
6) about 1 year of living expenses in a Money Market (easy access for emergencies)

*** Don't put your $ at risk by investing in specific sectors; diversify !**
*** Do consult a financial planner/advisor***

Please don't hesitate to critique my post-hope this helps :)

Actually... There's a pretty good book out by David Bach "How Smart Women finish rich" I found it very useful for basic financial planning info, but since you're not a chick you may find it too women oriented (lotsa stats about women in business)MotleyFool is also a good source of basic info.
 
Casablanca, sorry for the reprint of your post without comment. I was starting to write that it was basically good stuff - then I got called away from the computer. Usually when you close out screens without sending the post it just disappears into oblivion. This time for some reason it just posted automactially without comments and with just your quote in the box. :angel:
 
Exactly, most people with just the 7 like to say they are planners, so do some accountants which offer "financial planning". It's 3 years here in NJ for everything. Im going to be taking a bunch of extra courses along with continuing education etc etc...it never ends...

As for the market, it works more on rumors than actual information. I see a bunch of companies that have excellant numbers on the books (that are legit) and their stock will take a nose dive because they get one bad report...

angel_eyes said:


I am a Registered Representative/Stockbroker/Financial Planner, there is a HUGE difference. Make sure the person you go to has a CFP, Certified Financial Planner after their title. This is a 2 year program and most regular "stockbrokers" do not take the time to acquire one. Ask about what current licenses they hold and maintain, and how long they have been in the business and with that particular firm. A good broker should at least have a series 63,7,65, and 66 minimum and a history with the company they are representing.

I can only emphasize what has been said above. The person you meet with should do a full financial background and provide you with recommendations based on your risk tolerance and long term goals. You need to consider the funds/stocks 1,3,5, and 10 year average returns. Stay off the net, don't listen to friends "stock tips," and run from any brokerage firm that has a "stock of the day" recommendation. Investing is a personalized strategy and can vary greatly from one person to the next depending on age, income, prior investments, long and short term goals, and risk tolerance.

Just remember, if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

:angel:
 
Can you imagine the short coverings coming on the stocks illegally short sold by El-Gindy and the 1000 clowns who follow him?In one case, they short nearly 1 Billion shares thru European banks on a company with a float of 134 Million. Huge money once John O' Quinn, ESQ (from Houston) files his motions this Summer.



ElGindy's Rolls Royce Bentley License plate "ZEROBID"

U.S. District Court
Eastern District of New York (Brooklyn)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1-02-03002-RJD

United States of America v. Any valuables in any and all safe deposit boxes ma
Assigned to: Judge Raymond J. Dearie
Referred to: Magistrate-Judge Marilyn D. Go
Demand: $0
Lead Docket: None
Related Cases: None
Dkt# in other court: None
Cause: No cause code entered
Date Filed: 05/20/02
Jury Demand: None
Nature of Suit: 890
Jurisdiction: Federal Question

Plaintiff

United States of America represented by Arthur P. Hui
United States Attorneys Office
Eastern District of New York
One Pierrepont Plaza, 14th Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201
(718)254-6007
Fax : (718)254-6081
Email: [email protected]

V.

Defendant

All funds on deposit in any and all accounts TERMINATED: 05/30/2002
Certificates of Deposit TERMINATED: 05/30/2002
Any valuables in any and all safe deposit boxes maintained by or on behalf of AMR I. Elgindy

aka
"Anthony Elgindy"

aka
"Tony Elgindy"

aka
"Anthony Pacific"
Mary Faith Elgindy
Pacific Equity Investigations
Pacific International Securities, Inc.

Account No. 1182702640, Bank of America, including but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 1182104883, Bank of America, including but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 1182217682, Bank of America , including but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Bank of Montreal, Vancouver, British Columbia TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Global Securities, Vancouver, British Columbia, including, but not limited to

Account No. 0001000477117, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce Account No. 0001-0004-77117 TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 6730855019170, Salomon Smith Barney including, but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 6730854913170, Salomon Smith Barney including, but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 6730856215170, Salomon Smith Barney including, but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 6730856314170, Salomon Smith Barney including, but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 6730856116170, Salomon Smith Barney including, but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 6730854814170, Salomon Smith Barney including, but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Account No. 000100034011722, Royal Bank, Vancouver, British Columbia, including but not limited to TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

All Proceeds traceable to such funds TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

3371 Calle Tres Vistas, The Premises and Real Property located at 3371 Calle Tres Vistas, Encinitas, California, and all proceeds traceable thereto

VIN SCBZK25E91CX62537, A 2001 Rolls Royce Bentley Vehicle, VIN SCBZK25E91CX62537, California license plate no. ZEROBID, Registered in the name of Pacific Equity Investigations and Anthony Elgindy

VIN 1L1FM81W4YY903598, A 2000 Lincoln Town Car,
VIN 1L1FM81W4YY903598, California license plate No. 6H01784, Registered in the name of Pacific Equity Investigations

VIN 137ZA903XYE188837, A 2000 Humvee, VIN 137ZA903XYE188837, California license plate No. 00BID, Registered in the name of Pacific Equity Investigations and Tony Elgindy

VIN JS3TX92V414100376, A 2001 Suzuki Grand Vitara,
VIN JS3TX92V414100376, California license plate No. 4SYW793, Registered in the name of AMR I. Elgindy

VIN SAJPX1845XC859070, A 1999 Jaguar XJR, VIN SAJPX1845XC859070, California license plate No. 4MNB694, Registered in the name of Pacific Equity Investigations and AMR Elgindy

All proceeds to such vehicles

Account No. 03315908, All funds on deposit in USAA Federal Savings Bank Account No. 03315908 in the name of Jeffrey A. Royer, up to and including the sume of $16,925.00, and all proceeds traceable thereto TERMINATED: 05/30/2002

Filing Date

Docket Text

05/20/2002 1 Sealed document. (Bowens, Priscilla) Modified on 5/24/2002 (Bowens, Priscilla). (Entered: 05/24/2002)

05/20/2002 1 Complaint filed Warrants Issued as to defendant(s) 3371 Calle Tres Vistas, All proceeds to such vehicles, Any valuables in any and all safe deposit boxes maintained by or on behalf of AMR I. Elgindy, Mary Faith Elgindy, Global Securities, Vancouver, British Columbia, Pacific Equity Investigations, Pacific International Securities, Inc., VIN 137ZA903XYE188837, VIN 1L1FM81W4YY903598, VIN JS3TX92V414100376, VIN SAJPX1845XC859070, VIN SCBZK25E91CX62537.. Filed by Arthur P. Hui on behalf of United States of America. (Attachments: # 1)(Brown, Marc) (Entered: 06/19/2002)

05/20/2002 9 NOTICE OF COMPLAINT as to defendant(s) 3371 Calle Tres Vistas, All proceeds to such vehicles, Any valuables in any and all safe deposit boxes maintained by or on behalf of AMR I. Elgindy, Mary Faith Elgindy, Global Securities, Vancouver, British Columbia, Pacific Equity Investigations, Pacific International Securities, Inc., VIN 137ZA903XYE188837, VIN 1L1FM81W4YY903598, VIN JS3TX92V414100376, VIN SAJPX1845XC859070, VIN SCBZK25E91CX62537.. Filed by Arthur P. Hui on behalf of United States of America. (Brown, Marc) Modified on 6/19/2002 (Brown, Marc). (Entered: 06/19/2002)

05/24/2002 2 Declaration in support of application to unseal documents filed by Arthur P. Hui on behalf of United States of America. (Chee, Alvin) (Entered: 05/28/2002)

05/24/2002 3 Unsealing Order: All papers previously filed with the Court under seal in this action shall be unsealed forthwith. (signed Hon. Raymond J. Dearie, 5/24/02) (Chee, Alvin) (Entered: 05/28/2002)

05/24/2002 4 Warrant of Arrest for Articles in REM. (signed MJ Go, 5/20/02) (Chee, Alvin) (Entered: 05/28/2002)

05/24/2002 5 Declaration in support of application for a Writ of Assistance filed by Arthur P. Hui on behalf of United States of America. (Chee, Alvin) (Entered: 05/28/2002)

05/24/2002 6 Writ of Assistance. (signed Hon. Raymond Dearie, 5/22/02) (Chee, Alvin) (Entered: 05/28/2002)

05/24/2002 7 Notice of pendency filed by Arthur P. Hui on behalf of United States of America. (Chee, Alvin) (Entered: 05/28/2002)

05/28/2002 8 Notice of Dismissal solely against the deft funds on deposit in any and all accounts, CDs and any and all valuables in any and all safe deposit boxes maintained by Pacific International Secuerities, Inc. on deposit in Bank of America, Bank of Montreal, Global Securities, Salomon Smith Barney, and Royal Bank of Canada account number 00010-003-401-172-2 filed by Arthur P. Hui on behalf of United States of America. (Chee, Alvin) Modified on 5/30/2002 (Chee, Alvin). (Entered: 05/30/2002)

06/19/2002 10 Amended Notice complaint. Filed by Arthur P. Hui on behalf of United States of America. (Brown, Marc) Modified on 6/19/2002 (Brown, Marc). Modified on 6/19/2002 (Brown, Marc). (Entered: 06/19/2002)

06/19/2002 11 Amended complaint. Filed by Arthur P. Hui on behalf of United States of America. (Brown, Marc) (Entered: 06/19/2002)

06/28/2002 12 Order: Mr. and Mrs. Elgindy to file claim by 7/10/02; time to answer adjourned to 7/22/02. C/M by chambers. (signed Hon. Raymond Dearie, undated) (Chee, Alvin) (Entered: 06/28/2002)
 
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