Second law of Thermodynamics

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

BTW: both of u guys are way above me im sure astrophysics, cosmology and paleontology/paleoarthropology origin theory are hobbies which i can indulg in all too infrequently

obviously im speaking of fonz and chesty here

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

what book am i talking about??? have u actually read it?

have u read the koran/haidith, teh torah/talmud, the bible, zen philosophy, the Bhagavad Gita or studied zoroastrianism?? when u have read even a few let me know - i want to see if your search for God has been as indolent as your interest in science.

God speaks to each and everyperson seperately - and thus each one is responsible for his/her own actions and their reprecussions - that is what newton's third law is for

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

u can have an opinion on ideas but truth is not for u to judge, only to recognise (if ur lucky)

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

actually i have read most of that "crap". and while i happen to believe only one version of those listed (well 2 actually excepting that jewish tradition doesnt have the same meaning for me) but i have a profound respect fo rthaose who have at least tried to understand the Divine voice that calls to all people even if i believe that they have not yet ofund its source. unfortunately u sound mentally lazy - unwilling to search for meaning in your life - if you live long enough to have time to contemplate life's end i am well persuaded that you will regret this oversite.

it is only those who recognise their illness can seek to be made whole.

 

[Burning_Inside]

Who said the creator had to be a being? That's what I don't get. The term can be neuter. The term could also mean an abstract reaction being the creator. I think people take the term "creator", and use it a little too literally to use it as another arguement in an arsenal to prove a god-like being exists. Could be just an infinite chain of events. i think there's one law or theory that says that time has no beginning or end, it's infinite. So there couldn't be anything before time then, it was just always there, started by no one, or no thing. But i don't really care, I have better things to do than to be some spiritualistic monk sitting atop a high mountain peak trying to comprehend the whole meaning of life or whatever. When we're dead it ain't gonnamatter anyway, and if we actually know it while we're alive, it ain't going to help us out either, so.......

 

[The Varnsen]

And this has to do with what?

 

[Justtryingnot2getfat]

well actually - BI, science has not completely closed the issue but most are agreed or grumblingly resigned to a continually expanding universe with a singular point of origin. and this strongly points to tho certainly doesnt prove an external force or intelligence of some kind (tho not necessarily a religious deity, but again if not, then who or what?) why is this a strong indication? well, that will take a little reading on ur part (cause i dont ave the tiem to give it in this post) but even those who have a better understanding of astrophysics and cosmology than i yet do not chose to beleve as i do will easily confirm this.

 

[john937]

just because all these religions and explanations of existence and so on exist why am i obligated to read them to get a better understanding? ... reading any more is a waste of time. ... so i dont see a point in wasting any more time with it. ... so why bother reading things ...

Bullshit. This is the third page of this thread.
If you truely thought this was a waste of time you would have moved on to destroy another thread.
By your actions (staying here on this thread) you prove it is interesting to you.

For my part, I've forgotten more physics than I ever knew.
But the quantum mechanics part is really interesting.
I have studied enough asian philosophy and religion to see parallels in this thread.
The asian "big bang singularity" is described as God becoming self aware, woke up, realizing he was both himself and other, physical and spiritual, matter vs anti-matter, duality in all its forms. And in the act of God "waking up" all creation came into being, duality became the norm.

I suppose that analogy doesn't do much for science but I found it pleasant, comforting, relating something so incomprehensible as the creation of everything to something so human as waking up.

 

[john937]

Captain I challenge you to say anything positive.
On any topic, your choice.
Something you care about and believe in and have something positive to say.
I don't think you can.

 

[john937]

I thought as much. Captian gets to be first on my ignore list.