second cycle what do u think

[ironmandan]

i want to try injections for my second cycle my last cycle was 2 orals for 6 weeks i want to cut up and put on some muscle for the summer
so what do u think about this cycle
--------Deca Durabolin 200mg vial----Stanabol 10mg----------Nolvadex
week 1----200mgs----------------------1.5-------------------10mgs
week 2----200mgs-----------------------2 -------------------10mgs
week 3----400mgs-----------------------2.5------------------10mgs
week 4----400mgs-----------------------2.5----------------- 10mgs
week 5 ---400mgs-----------------------2.5-----------------10mgs
week 6----400mgs-----------------------2.5---------------10mgs
week 7----200mgs-----------------------2-----------------10mgs
week 8----200mgs----------------------1.5-----------------10mgs
week 9-----------------------------------------------------10mgs

do i need to take hcg at the end of this cycle any thing i need to add ? aslo i took liv-55 with my first cycle with 2 orals do i still need to take them.

im 22 years old 12 stone 8%bf newbi to steroids

 

[Makavelli]

i want to try injections for my second cycle my last cycle was 2 orals for 6 weeks i want to cut up and put on some muscle for the summer so what do u think about this cycle
Deca Durabolin 200mg vial Stanabol 10mg Nolvadex
week 1 200mgs 1.5 10mgs
week 2 200mgs 2 10mgs
week 3 400mgs 2.5 10mgs
week 4 400mgs 2.5 10mgs
week 5 400mgs 2.5 10mgs
week 6 400mgs 2.5 10mgs
week 7 200mgs 2 10mgs
week 8 200mgs 1.5 10mgs
week 9 10mgs

do i need to take hcgant the end of this cycle any thing i need to add ? aslo i took liv-55 with my first cycle with 2 orals do i still need to take them.

im 22 years old 12 stone 8%bf newbi to steroids

This cycle sucks. I would go with a small amount of test, about 400 mgs/wk, and stack that with EQ at 400 mgs/wk. Run that for 12-16 weeks. The last 6 weeks run winstrol at 50 mgs/day. With a solid diet and cardio regime, you'll be looking good by the time you start the winstrol.

 

[ryan04]

I agree with Makivelli...that cycle can suck a fart out of my ass! Deca and winny doses are way too low. Use some test for a 2nd cycle (4-500 mgs a week), and add either 400 mgs of deca or eq. Listen to Makivelli, he knows what he's talking about.

You could expect better gains off the Subway diet and some Flinstone vitamins than you could with that turd of a cycle. Good luck bro!

 

[ironmandan]

This cycle sucks. I would go with a small amount of test, about 400 mgs/wk, and stack that with EQ at 400 mgs/wk. Run that for 12-16 weeks. The last 6 weeks run winstrol at 50 mgs/day. With a solid diet and cardio regime, you'll be looking good by the time you start the winstrol.

ok thanks would u take liver portection on this and finish of with 2 weeks of hcg

 

[Makavelli]

ok thanks would u take liver portection on this and finish of with 2 weeks of hcg

Any time that you run a cycle, you want to take liver protection. There's lots of different options, I prefer Liver Care. You need to take clomid, nolvadex, and if you have it anyway HCG at the end of the cycle for PCT. Make sure that you have your PCT before you start your cycle. You don't want to get to the end and not have it. Then you'll be at risk for losing most, if not all, or your gains. Good luck.

 

[ironmandan]

Any time that you run a cycle, you want to take liver protection. There's lots of different options, I prefer Liver Care. You need to take clomid, nolvadex, and if you have it anyway HCG at the end of the cycle for PCT. Make sure that you have your PCT before you start your cycle. You don't want to get to the end and not have it. Then you'll be at risk for losing most, if not all, or your gains. Good luck.

ok thanks for that i don't have any hcg so do i really need it if i do i will get it?

 

[Makavelli]

ok thanks for that i don't have any hcg so do i really need it if i do i will get it?

Since it's only your second cycle and the doses are mild, I would just stick with the clomid and nolva. I didn't use HCG until my fourth cycle.

 

[ironmandan]

Since it's only your second cycle and the doses are mild, I would just stick with the clomid and nolva. I didn't use HCG until my fourth cycle.

is EQ Boldenone undeclynate

 

[Makavelli]

is EQ Boldenone undeclynate

Yes. It's better for cutting than deca. Most people get too much water retention from deca.

 

[ironmandan]

Yes. It's better for cutting than deca. Most people get too much water retention from deca.

is it not a good idear to drink achole when useing steroids its just some times like to go out with friends clubbing

 

[Makavelli]

is it not a good idear to drink achole when useing steroids its just some times like to go out with friends clubbing

If you can't cut out drinking while running a cycle, then you have no business running a cycle. Either be big and lean, or be drunk and fat. Take your pick.

 

[Raffaz]

ok thanks would u take liver portection on this and finish of with 2 weeks of hcg

You only really need liver protection when using orals. Theres a post on here by Ulter (i think) about that. Tylers is a good choice, can be bought at AF shop (on this site).

Mick

 

[ironmandan]

This cycle sucks. I would go with a small amount of test, about 400 mgs/wk, and stack that with EQ at 400 mgs/wk. Run that for 12-16 weeks. The last 6 weeks run winstrol at 50 mgs/day. With a solid diet and cardio regime, you'll be looking good by the time you start the winstrol.

what sort of diet on this cycle mass diet 3500-4000 cals or 2500-3000cals ?

 

[Makavelli]

what sort of diet on this cycle mass diet 3500-4000 cals or 2500-3000cals ?

Are you trying to bulk or cut?

 

[ironmandan]

Are you trying to bulk or cut?

bit of both realy but don't think can do both just want to cut and and put on muscle manly cutting

 

[silverbackn]

If you can't cut out drinking while running a cycle, then you have no business running a cycle. Either be big and lean, or be drunk and fat. Take your pick.

If you're going to stick needles into your body and you don't have the discipline to lay off the booze you shouldn't be juicing.

 

[Goldprospector]

I agree, the cycle sucks. Wheres the test? I would use either Test alone or Stack with EQ or tren.
It is not impossible to bulk and cut at the same time but it works better on extremely long cycles. Regardless, to bulk up...you have to take in more cals than you burn off. But to cut you have to burn off more than you take in. Thats the bottom line.

 

[Bruce]

If you're going to stick needles into your body and you don't have the discipline to lay off the booze you shouldn't be juicing.

agreed. my doc says a cycle is like goin to cancun and boozin everyday for a week as far as the effect on your liver. so don't do both. i personally prefer gettin muscular and healthy when stressin my liver, not drunk and hungover. man i hate drinkin though. red wine is fine, but nothing else. thats why god made benzo's.

 

[silverbackn]

agreed. my doc says a cycle is like goin to cancun and boozin everyday for a week as far as the effect on your liver. so don't do both. i personally prefer gettin muscular and healthy when stressin my liver, not drunk and hungover. man i hate drinkin though. red wine is fine, but nothing else. thats why god made benzo's.

Yep, why stress your liver even more, especially when doing something counterproductive! Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[ElMatador]

ok thanks for that i don't have any hcg so do i really need it if i do i will get it?

If you don't have HCG,you can go with Clomid for your PCT...but be sure HCG is much better!

 

[DIVISION]

agreed. my doc says a cycle is like goin to cancun and boozin everyday for a week as far as the effect on your liver

No.

Actually alchohol abuse is much worse on your liver for the longterm than AAS. I understand what he's trying to tell you, Lil'Bruce.....but drinking to inebriation is worse than a responsible AAS cycle.

Doing both is out of the question. That's suicide.




DIV

 

[ironmandan]

yeah i know what u guys r saying i don't like drink anyway just some times like to have some fun going out with friends clubbing thanks for that guys.