second cycle opinions please

[borys shot]

30 yrs old
5'10
182 lbs
BF 12%

Test Prop 75mg eod 1to 10 weeks
Tren Ace 50mg eod 1 to 10 weeks
Dianabol 30 30mg each day 1-5 weeks
hcg at 500 IU a week 1-10 weeks

first cycle was test only 500 mg per week for 10 and I got some gains but nothing that impressed me, and lost them very quick, do you this cycle might give me more gains and help me to keep them longer? thank you.

 

[Lev Butlerov]

Most probably you lost the gains due to an unproper PCT - the most frequent reasons why people lose all their gains are a bad PCT, and lack of training.

Regarding the cycle, I am not sure if the trenbolone is a good idea for a second cycle - it is a very potent compound with lots of harsh side effects.

If you really want to go ahead with it, you definitely need to remove HCG - it will not do any good to you, but can certainly do more damage.

Then you need to use all the right ancillaries:
Aromasin at 10 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle
Cabergoline at 0.25 mgs E2D from the first day of the cycle
N2Guard while using Dbol.

Make sure to have a well planned PCT, such as the perfect PCT if you want to have a smooth recovery and keep the gains made on cycle. You can check it out here - https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[stevesmi]

tren isn't the best for keeping gains. if you want the best chance to keep gains you would run something mild like deca, EQ, or primo that gives you slow and quality gains.

fast gains= hard to keep

i bet all your gains from your test cycle were just water

 

[muskate]

@lev buterlov gave you some really great advice.

The only thing I would add is to consider adding cardarine into your cycle lay out -> https://www.evolutionary.org/trenbolone-cardarine-gw-and-cardio-side-effects

Cardarine is awesome for preventing tren related side effects such as decreases in endurance, tren cough and insulin resistance.

The nicest thing about cardarine is that it isn't a hormone or a stimulant so you can add it into your entire cycle and PCT with no risk of side effects.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

If you didn't make good gains and lost what you did gain then there were issues with your cycle. They were likely diet/training and PCT related. Unless your gear was sub-par.

I would not look to run tren expecting it to do the work that your first cycle didn't do. Tren is not the best idea for a second cycle.

I would just run the test and dbol and put more work in on the diet. Definitely drop the HCG too as it will only have negative effects on recovery.

This is what I suggest to run for PCT to help keep gains this time: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html