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Lets say the cops come to your house with proof that you may have recieved gear in the past but, when they search your house they find nothing but pins. Can they do anything ?
 
stormin67 said:
Lets say the cops come to your house with proof that you may have recieved gear in the past but, when they search your house they find nothing but pins. Can they do anything ?

since they probably did come to your house,
http://www.legalmusclebooks.com/
go to rick collins

IMO if they find nothing, they can do nothing...
 
Nope .... pins are not illegal , fact is unless they really want to be a cunt about it possesion weight is most often overlooked as well ...

No ones looking for the end user .. it's the supply network the DEA ( if your in the usa ) is after . They can brow beat you in hopes you'll role over on someone else but truth be told who gives a rats ass about the guy who has a few grams of pot to smoke for himself or a few orals to pop ...

Half the cops i know do alot more juice then i do ....

DEA is pissed at anyone that can make money at anything that can't be taxed by the goverment , that fact it's steroids is no different then cocaine pot or bootleg smokes

Besides .. they would have to have pretty compelling evidence to come knocking on your door .. there simply is not enough police on this planet to track down every single guy who has ever puchased gear off the net and left a trail behind ...

Don't leave you gear lying around and you'll be ok ... i don't have any where i live

I'd be alot more worried if they could prove you were part of a disturbution network then the end user .

PS : DISCLAIMER .... Of cource i live in canada where laws are different then the usa and so is the attitude of the authorities . It's just not that big of a deal here ... I once had my gym bag searched during a check stop and the cop asked " whats this ? " what do you think it is i replied ... Damn that shit will kill you he said as he zipped my gym bag back up ... This cop could give a shit about roids ...
 
If they don't have drugs in your possession, then they don't have a case. Even if they actually had the drugs you ordered before they got to you, if you somehow avoided taking possession of them, then you'd be alrite. HOWEVER......this will not stop them from making it seem as though they have a case against you and they will say things to make you feel as if though you are in deep trouble even if they didn't find anything. They prey off fear and ignorance of the law. Show neither.....do like X said, get Rick Collin's book and read it from front to back. It's an entertaining book to read and it will arm you with knowledge that could easily mean the difference between a conviction and never getting arrested in the first place. :)
 
best piece of advice for anyone who has been approached by LE.....................................


SHUT YOUR MOUTH

stop incriminating yourself.
 
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itlnstln said:
best piece of adive for anyone who has been approached by LE.....................................


SHUT YOUR MOUTH

stop incriminating yourself.


Well said.
 
itlnstln said:
best piece of adive for anyone who has been approached by LE.....................................


SHUT YOUR MOUTH

stop incriminating yourself.
There is no way to actually state in words how important this advise is.
 
stormin67 said:
Lets say the cops come to your house with proof that you may have recieved gear in the past but, when they search your house they find nothing but pins. Can they do anything ?


No...your fine. advise lawyer if in need.
 
How can they prove you received before?

Unless it was a controlled delivery and you flushed the order as soon as it arrived then how on earth can anyone say that they know you received before.
 
They can not do anything for pinz, Hell take it from me, I did two years in Prison, Even if they found steroids in your house with the needles, And all they have is personal use,Your looking at Probation.....At Most and thats if you've been convicted of crimes before...It's a 3rd degree crime..They can't do shit..Now if your selling Juice than your talking some time in a Fed Camp..But thats for another Post.....Thats why I Don't Sell A God Damn Thing
 
never, I mean never ever, let any cop or agent into your home without a search warrant, and if they have one make them wait until you get your lawyer on site to be sure it is legal, and do not say a word to them
 
Also, if they "Just want to ask you a few questions".......NEVER let them come in your house, and don't talk to them with the door open.

If they look around your place and see something suspect, they have probable cause for a search or at least cause enough to get a warrant and come back. Always talk to them outside.

If they ask to come in, say NO. If they could search your shit they wouldn't be asking, they would just do it.
 
scout69 said:
They can not do anything for pinz, Hell take it from me, I did two years in Prison, Even if they found steroids in your house with the needles, And all they have is personal use,Your looking at Probation.....At Most and thats if you've been convicted of crimes before...It's a 3rd degree crime..They can't do shit..Now if your selling Juice than your talking some time in a Fed Camp..But thats for another Post.....Thats why I Don't Sell A God Damn Thing

Just remember that varies from state to state, some states it is infact illegal to have pinz, but not a big deal in most states. Also many states do not have laws defining anabolic steroids, and therefore some of them hand off to the feds to prosecute on that specific drug vs. using a generic "controlled or dangeous" substance law. Dealing is another story and a bad one in any state you're in, just remember that each state does vary, especially in pinz and syringes.
 
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What state are you in? If someone gave you a heads up on the cops or if anyone you know has recently been busted you're probably fine for now. If the cops had enough evidence to bust you they'd probably have taken you down already. Regardless, if you think you are being watched, or your source is being watched, the way most guys actually get busted is cuz they throw their empty RX waste in their home garbage. Once your garbage is set outside for pick up, it's fair game to be searched by LE(no warrant needed)-anything incriminating they find will easily get them a warrant to search your crib. Another thing that could get you in trouble is anything in writing in your trash. Ex-you're mapping out your next cycle and you have stuff like 200 mg test, 200 mg deca weeks 1-4 etc written on a post it note. It might be enough to get a warrant too cuz the cops will present it to a judge as if it's possibly a dealer's sale ledger. If shit ever goes down, you need to 100% deny any use or knowledge of possession. The cops are trained to make you feel as if you cooperate this little problem will go away. This is nothing more than a ruse to get you to admit guilt and give them a better case against you in court. By saying nothing and denying everything you have a better chance of getting off-or at least getting a plea bargain that you can live with. If I had $10 for everytime I told someone this and they cracked under police pressure I'd be able to pay for my gear for the next 2 years. When you lie to your wife/gf it's best to tell as close to the truth as possible. When lying to the cops it's better to tell them the blackest lie that you can. I don't care if the bottle of test has your handwritten signature on the bottle-you deny any knowledge of it's existence and you stick to that story until the very end.
 
Well said BigCracker. Deny, Deny, Deny even if they found something in your house. The police are not your friend, you will never git off eaisier by cooperating. Their only motive is to get another feather in their hat. The most incriminating evidence used in most court cases is self incriminated because someone dieent keep their big mouth shut!
 
boxerjake said:
Nope .... pins are not illegal , fact is unless they really want to be a cunt about it possesion weight is most often overlooked as well ...

No ones looking for the end user .. it's the supply network the DEA ( if your in the usa ) is after . They can brow beat you in hopes you'll role over on someone else but truth be told who gives a rats ass about the guy who has a few grams of pot to smoke for himself or a few orals to pop ...

Half the cops i know do alot more juice then i do ....

DEA is pissed at anyone that can make money at anything that can't be taxed by the goverment , that fact it's steroids is no different then cocaine pot or bootleg smokes

Besides .. they would have to have pretty compelling evidence to come knocking on your door .. there simply is not enough police on this planet to track down every single guy who has ever puchased gear off the net and left a trail behind ...

Don't leave you gear lying around and you'll be ok ... i don't have any where i live

I'd be alot more worried if they could prove you were part of a disturbution network then the end user .

PS : DISCLAIMER .... Of cource i live in canada where laws are different then the usa and so is the attitude of the authorities . It's just not that big of a deal here ... I once had my gym bag searched during a check stop and the cop asked " whats this ? " what do you think it is i replied ... Damn that shit will kill you he said as he zipped my gym bag back up ... This cop could give a shit about roids ...

WRONG...in most states, if not all, it is ILLEGAL to possess a hypodermic needle w/o a legal prescription. Granted, its probably only a misdemeanor, but it is still illegal. How much would that suck to have your name printed in the local police blotter for possession of a hypodermic needle?
 
boxerjake said:
Nope .... pins are not illegal , fact is unless they really want to be a cunt about it possesion weight is most often overlooked as well ...

No ones looking for the end user .. it's the supply network the DEA ( if your in the usa ) is after . They can brow beat you in hopes you'll role over on someone else but truth be told who gives a rats ass about the guy who has a few grams of pot to smoke for himself or a few orals to pop ...

Half the cops i know do alot more juice then i do ....

DEA is pissed at anyone that can make money at anything that can't be taxed by the goverment , that fact it's steroids is no different then cocaine pot or bootleg smokes

Besides .. they would have to have pretty compelling evidence to come knocking on your door .. there simply is not enough police on this planet to track down every single guy who has ever puchased gear off the net and left a trail behind ...

Don't leave you gear lying around and you'll be ok ... i don't have any where i live

I'd be alot more worried if they could prove you were part of a disturbution network then the end user .

PS : DISCLAIMER .... Of cource i live in canada where laws are different then the usa and so is the attitude of the authorities . It's just not that big of a deal here ... I once had my gym bag searched during a check stop and the cop asked " whats this ? " what do you think it is i replied ... Damn that shit will kill you he said as he zipped my gym bag back up ... This cop could give a shit about roids ...
Pins are illegal in some US states It just depends on which state you live in
check your state

http://www.temple.edu/lawschool/phrhcs/map.htm


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indy69camaro said:
Just remember that varies from state to state, some states it is infact illegal to have pinz, but not a big deal in most states. Also many states do not have laws defining anabolic steroids, and therefore some of them hand off to the feds to prosecute on that specific drug vs. using a generic "controlled or dangeous" substance law. Dealing is another story and a bad one in any state you're in, just remember that each state does vary, especially in pinz and syringes.
Tru, I didn't really consider different state, Different Laws, But Still your not looking at Time For Pinz......
 
itlnstln said:
best piece of advice for anyone who has been approached by LE.....................................


SHUT YOUR MOUTH

stop incriminating yourself.
More guys put themselves and others in deep shit with their own words.




mr.x said:
since they probably did come to your house,
http://www.legalmusclebooks.com/
go to rick collins

IMO if they find nothing, they can do nothing...
Good book to have (Legal Muscle).

In some states it is illegal to possess pins unprescribed.
IMHO if they came with a warrant for possession of AAS and found none I would not think they could do anything. But, that is why there are lawyers who will render my legal opinions useless. To be sure ASK YOURS!!!!
 
First, for the cops to get a search warrant for your house they need probable cause and a warrant signed by a magistrate. The police would need strong proof that you received gear in the past in order for them to obtain a warrant. Unless you received a large order of gear in the past, and the cops had very strong proof that it was in fact delivered to your residence, a magistrate will most likely not sign off on a warrant to search your residence.

Second, it is illegal in some jurisdictions to possess hypodermic needles unless you have a legitimate medical reason (or a prescription). Laws between states vary on what the requirements are for needles. In some states it is illegal to possess needles for illicit drug use. Generally, these statutes are used to tack on charges once someone has been nailed with narcotics (or AAS). If it is illegal to possess needles in your jurisdiction, the likelihood of the police charging you for possession of needles (without finding other illegal drugs) is slim though.

If you are worried about getting caught with needles make sure you have a good excuse for having them. I have read a few cases where police have found syringes laying out in the open in an automobile, during a routine stop, and this gave them probable cause to search the rest of the vehicle (there is a US Supreme Court case dealing with such a scenario).

In sum, I wouldn’t worry about having needles in your house if you do not have other illicit drugs. Do realize that if you have illicit substances, the needles could lead to additional charges.
 
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