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Saudis Consider Throwing US Out

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10-19-1

Word is spreading around the Mideast and through diplomatic channels that the Saudi regime is embroiled in heated debate about whether to end the U.S. military presence in the kingdom.

The royal family, United Press International reported today, "is united only in the growing sense of panic that Osama bin Laden has provoked an internal political crisis that threatens to topple the regime."

"Crown Prince Abdullah, far more sympathetic to the fundamentalists, is said to want the 13,000 American troops and airmen to leave. Defense Minister Prince Sultan, far more pro-Western, wants them to stay - but even he opposes the use of Saudi bases for U.S. airstrikes against the Taliban.

"Bin Laden's contemptuous attacks on the Saudi monarchy as 'hypocrite Muslims' and American puppets have struck a popular chord. Demonstrations in support of bin Laden have been called for Thursday night across the Saudi kingdom through Internet sites and mobile phone text messaging. Riyadh, Qaseem, Jeddah, Mecca and Khobar are all targeted for demonstrations.

"The Saudis have given Washington no overt warning, but Pentagon officials have quietly been looking at alternative bases in the Gulf region. Fear of the impact on the shaky Saudi monarchy is one big reason why Pentagon deputy secretary Paul Wolfowitz has been told to silence his earlier calls to complete the unfinished business with Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq."
 
I'm pretty sure newsmax is quite the "full-of-shit, rumor-monger" site.


They tend to report things that can neither be proven nor disproven.
 
I'm pretty sure newsmax is quite the "full-of-shit, rumor-monger" site.

I will agree that newsmax is hit and miss with there stories. The power struggle developing in Saudi Arabia is for real though. Every outlet of the media has covered it in some form. Intelligence reports have info on it also. Saudi Arabia is ground Zero for the problems in the Middle East. Something going to give either the Royal Family or the fundamentalist movement there. Wahabism is starting to spread like wildfire through out the middle east and abroad.
 
DcupSheepNipples said:


I will agree that newsmax is hit and miss with there stories. The power struggle developing in Saudi Arabia is for real though. Every outlet of the media has covered it in some form. Intelligence reports have info on it also. Saudi Arabia is ground Zero for the problems in the Middle East. Something going to give either the Royal Family or the fundamentalist movement there. Wahabism is starting to spread like wildfire through out the middle east and abroad.


real good analysis here. I'm not sure of Wahabism spreading. don't get me wrong, there is much anti american sentiment, but more aimed toward US foreign policies (to argue this is for another thread). However unqualified newsmax is, the royal family is a bind. due to the fact they are illegitimate (being born to rule does not make a leader, royalty is dead) they must be very watchful of the opposition. Bin ladden comes from a powerful clan that comes from saudi arabia. This clan is both monitarily rich and very notorious for being dangerous. While the saudi's love the US for the support we give them, they also love the throne, and will do whatever it takes to keep it, even if it means temporarily saying "no" to the US.

One thing to learn is that middle east politics are never black and white. I think our policy leaders are starting to realize this, which is a good thing.
 
the saudis are a bunch of sell-outs, so it wouldnt surprise me. i cant blame them though, they are living in one of the most fucked up places on earth.
 
I'm not sure of Wahabism spreading

That is the type of the muslim religion that Osama follows. He seems to have done a good job of spreading his believes and terror in Sudan, Afganistan, etc etc. The middle east countries and muslim countries have been unwilling to stop this sec of the muslim religion from raging it's terror. That's one reason we have to destroy it. I would be all for them to take care of it. But they are unwilling to do it! All I know is either way shit is going to hit the fan. If we don't fight the terrorists and fundamentalists they will become stronger and more powerful to rage their terror. And If we do fight they are going to go ballistic. I only see one solution, war to destroy them!
 
well I guess we all have our opinons. but to wipe out a whole race of people isn't a very good idea. I'm all for killing the terrorists and the taliban but to kill a whole race sounds like shit that wouldn't make for very good history. but that's me, what do I know? I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying this. oh well.
 
"my bad dcup."

I may have a psycho sig. And I may support just wars, but I would never support genocide. Would you ever think someone with a name DcupSheepNipples would support genocide? If I did, I think my name would be a little more descriptive. But I do support the destruction of the terrorists by any means.
 
The Nature Boy said:
well I guess we all have our opinons. but to wipe out a whole race of people isn't a very good idea. I'm all for killing the terrorists and the taliban but to kill a whole race sounds like shit that wouldn't make for very good history. but that's me, what do I know? I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying this. oh well.

why would you get flamed for saying this? i dont think anyone really wants extermination of an entire race. if they do then they are some messed up individuals.
 
why would you get flamed for saying this? i dont think anyone really wants extermination of an entire race. if they do then they are some messed up individuals.

Because, I'm misunderstood. I have a phyco sig that is blunt. I have many smart ass posts both in humour and I'm just plain smart:D Seriously though I don't back down and it gets some people on the board mad. Sometimes, I do it on purpose and other times I'm just messing around to get people to think or to stir thing's up. Thus I have the name of DcupSheepNipples what could be more controversial than that!:lmao: Plus I can't be a meat head 24/7:D
 
dude that's a good thing. you're original, plus I read some of the news clips you post, especially if you quote the source. I'd like to think I am original too. I don't fall into the liberal/conservative bullshit because I have views that are more libertarian. plus I'll throw in bullshit comments just to make sure people are paying attention. fuck it.
 
DcupSheepNipples said:


Because, I'm misunderstood. I have a phyco sig that is blunt. I have many smart ass posts both in humour and I'm just plain smart:D Seriously though I don't back down and it gets some people on the board mad. Sometimes, I do it on purpose and other times I'm just messing around to get people to think or to stir thing's up. Thus I have the name of DcupSheepNipples what could be more controversial than that!:lmao: Plus I can't be a meat head 24/7:D

i like most of your posts. i wasnt talking about you getting flamed though.
 
i like most of your posts. i wasnt talking about you getting flamed though.

Ok, no harm no foul. At least I got another post so I can reach Smalls level before she comes back from filming "Smalls does the Taliban in a burka" I gotta rent that:lmao:
 
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