Sauce by Syntrax

[riskybizz007]

Anyone heard of this product? Sauce by Syntrax? They sell it at DPS, it's 1-test in caps, 75mg/cap. What they did to it I don't know... if they altered or changed it in any way.... wondering if anyone bought it yet and made gains from it?

It's suppossed to be more bioavailable than regular 1-test.

 

[DR. NOE]

Sauce just came out last week. If i remember right it's 1-test with ester.

 

[riskybizz007]

something like that... I read somewhere that it had absorption of 45%... so i'm wondering if it kicks ass or if it's another Mag10.

 

[HighIntensity]

u think its better than strait 1 test from kilo ....risky

 

[riskybizz007]

Man i don't know... I think Syntrax is claiming it has 45% absorption, regular 1test is much lower, maybe even less than half of that orally. I'm bumping to hear some opinions, and i'm sure people pre-ordered it, so please post up. PA or Par should really know what's the deal w/ this as well...

 

[HighIntensity]

risky i love your quike response rate, second im going to take 1 test orally...6 times a day and use lpc with it...also iv done transdermal not much to write home bout

any thoughts

 

[Distortion]

this is very interesting.. lets get some more feedback

 

[fhg43]

(say like Beavis)
hehe hehe...You guys are on the Sauce...hehe hehe...Cool

hehe hehe...Will it make my nuts shrink...AAAHHHH!!! My nads are shrining...This totally sucks!!!!

(say like Butthead)
Uuhhhh..Shut up DUMBASS...uuhhh...Your nads were already little...hehe hehe hehe

FHG

 

[riskybizz007]

I stated earlier that it had close to a 45% absorption rate... When i went down to their site i couldn't find that figure or any figure for that matter anywhere. I guess it was just speculation and i went along w/ it. I'm curious as to what people's take on this is... any users yet?

 

[Par Deus]

I am curious what literature people are reading that makes them think lymphatic absorption will be so much better with a THP ether than an undecanoate ester (which suck, orally, BTW).

Basically all of the studies are by the Japanese pharmaceutical company whose product it was. They use a methoxycyclopentane ether, not a THP ether -- and they have some strange methodology, such as delivering the drug into the small intestine to test an oral. And, there is a study that makes their reason for having done so seem suspect -- I will quote from the study:

"The lymphatic absorption from the small intestine was very small in the absence of bile compared with that when bile was present. The lymphatic absorption was greatest when drug was administered to the upper small intestine with bile, was smaller for the lower regions of the small intestine, and was negligible for the stomach and the large intestine. "

Another thing I am curious about -- the androgen that does make it to the blood is encased within chylomicrons and VLDL's -- don't these get metabolized in the liver?? If so, is there anything to suggest that the androgen is freed before this happens??

 

[pa1ad]

I am curious what literature people are reading that makes them think lymphatic absorption will be so much better with a THP ether than an undecanoate ester (which suck, orally, BTW).

Basically all of the studies are by the Japanese pharmaceutical company whose product it was. They use a methoxycyclopentane ether, not a THP ether -- and they have some strange methodology, such as delivering the drug into the small intestine to test an oral. And, there is a study that makes their reason for having done so seem suspect -- I will quote from the study:

"The lymphatic absorption from the small intestine was very small in the absence of bile compared with that when bile was present. The lymphatic absorption was greatest when drug was administered to the upper small intestine with bile, was smaller for the lower regions of the small intestine, and was negligible for the stomach and the large intestine. "

Another thing I am curious about -- the androgen that does make it to the blood is encased within chylomicrons and VLDL's -- don't these get metabolized in the liver?? If so, is there anything to suggest that the androgen is freed before this happens??

these ethers, which are known as enyl ethers, are very susceptible to acid hydrolysis. They do hydrolyze to free steroids in the blood. However, they should also hydrolyze quite readily in the stomach, where there is a very low pH. Perhaps that is why the Japanese by passed the stomach in there testing?

 

[DR. NOE]

Here's some more info, will see what else I can find.

sauce is going to extremely more potent than 1-ad.sauce is 1-ad 's conversion hormone.with the incorporation of the ether it does not undergo conversion within the body as it is already active.1-ad has a 14% oral bioavailability,1-test is believed to have the same because of the double bond they have (same reason primo is not 17 alkalated and is still orally active). The absobtion rate for sauce based on research is between 30 and 40 % and may vary from individual to individual.
SAUCE will contain 60 capsule of 75 mg of 1-Test from a 95mg 1-Testosterone TetraHydroPyranyl Monoether!-test is more bioavailable than 1AD. Now the fact that SAUCE contains a Ether makes SAUCE the most effective and orally active 1-testosterone product. Oral bioavailabitly has always been the problem with the majority of all the prohormone products. On paper they are very effective but in the real world they have offered pretty poor results. The Ether Technology solves the bioavailability issue. Should kick ass. I also beleive there is some pre and post pictures of some dude who took the supplements and had great results. Will keep searching.

 

[riskybizz007]

So i guess the figure wasn't made up. It claims to be 2-3 times better absorption than 1AD or 1Test...

So do u go by their figure and run and buy it... or do you wait b/c you're skeptical?

 

[DR. NOE]

Here's the website for the Syntrax guinea pig who has claimed some unbelievable gains using Syntrax supplements. Was reading somewhere that he gained like 20 lbs in four weeks on Sauce.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/bodybuilders/jrod.htm

 

[Complete Muscle]

I'm no expert by a long shot, just a consumer trying to educate myself before making a purchasing decision. That japanese crap is NO proof af anything. Syntrax's verbage sounds like convincing psuedo-intellectual marketing hype. (there's a surprise!) I'm not saying sauce won't be effective, just no more effective than 1-test w/o the "ether". So my money's on plain old 1-test for now... till it gets pulled anyway

 

[wojo]

Here's the website for the Syntrax guinea pig who has claimed some unbelievable gains using Syntrax supplements. Was reading somewhere that he gained like 20 lbs in four weeks on Sauce.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/bodybuilders/jrod.htm

i have no idea were you heard that ,his name is joey rodriquez and he is the syntrax mod on there forum and head of marketing

 

[pa1ad]

So i guess the figure wasn't made up. It claims to be 2-3 times better absorption than 1AD or 1Test...

So do u go by their figure and run and buy it... or do you wait b/c you're skeptical?

A smart consumer asks for verification of claims like this (published studies).

 

[rancid]

how true, I have unfortunately spent way too much money believing all the sales hype of these supp. manufacturers, unfotunately they are priced way too high , I live close to the border so I can actually go down there a pick up a bottle of ref-b for 25$, but the sides out weight the gains using those type of things, unfortunately I will probably be using anavar ( even though it's considered expensive ) it's still about comprable to buyin 3 bottle of 1-ad or sauce. what a drag

 

[budman68]

what is the sense in spending all this money on Supps considering nobody knows the long term affects they can have on the body and most of the time, they are worthless (I am not saying all of them, but most). Why not juice? Its obviously a helluv alot cheaper and the gains are pretty much guaranteed. If you are willing to accept side effects from PH why not roids?

 

[pa1ad]

what is the sense in spending all this money on Supps considering nobody knows the long term affects they can have on the body and most of the time, they are worthless (I am not saying all of them, but most). Why not juice? Its obviously a helluv alot cheaper and the gains are pretty much guaranteed. If you are willing to accept side effects from PH why not roids?

Medical science does not know the long term side effects from anabolic steroids either. There have never been any halfway decent long term clinical or statistical studies on anabolic steroids

 

[notpuff]

risky i love your quike response rate, second im going to take 1 test orally...6 times a day and use lpc with it...also iv done transdermal not much to write home bout

any thoughts

people respond diffrently to steroids for example i just had a conversation with animal on this , he said he used winny at 100mg a day and felt nothing ,and ive heard many ppl not make gains on anavr and primo , it depends on the person

 

[HarmsWayBC]

Considering all the problems with orally delivery, i'm really suprised companies like Syntrax, who often make good products, refuse to follow in the footsteps of Avant Labs and ErgoPharm whose transdermals are the only prohormones on the market that are any good at all, moreover, they are the products that deliver the best results.

 

[riskybizz007]

For those of you who don't know... Kilosports will in about a months time will come out w/ the 1Test ether that Syntrax is currently selling. And it will cost the same as the old 1Test.

If it's worth a crap, might as well wait for kilo to start selling it, it would be much cheaper and same price as old 1test. Just have to cap them yourself.

Just giving a heads up to all my cheap bros like me... lol

Since there's no real evidence that it's better absorbed, i'm still a bit skeptical however....

 

[Par Deus]

Considering all the problems with orally delivery, i'm really suprised companies like Syntrax, who often make good products, refuse to follow in the footsteps of Avant Labs and ErgoPharm whose transdermals are the only prohormones on the market that are any good at all, moreover, they are the products that deliver the best results.

Orals are more convenient, and there is some data (which has some HUGE flaws, perhaps to the point of being worthless) that makes an ether appear to be effective.

Besides, even if they did not bother with data, just making outrageous claims and making it an oral will insure that it will sell quite well.

 

[HighIntensity]

oral like one test can be effective

 

[riskybizz007]

Considering the flaw in the study... do you guys think at the very least it would be as absorbed as 1AD or 1Test? Or might there be a chance that it absorption is even less than the 1AD or 1test.

 

[Par Deus]

Or might there be a chance that it absorption is even less than the 1AD or 1test.

I would not think so.

 

[pa1ad]

Considering the flaw in the study... do you guys think at the very least it would be as absorbed as 1AD or 1Test? Or might there be a chance that it absorption is even less than the 1AD or 1test.

I don't see why it will be absorbed worse than the free steroids. OTOH I don't think it will offer any great increase in absorption either

 

[notpuff]

just take it transdermally

 

[CytoMel]

I just started taking Syntrax Sauce yesterday.

Anyone else try it?