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EYE ON THE GULF
France not fazed by sanction threat Congress targets Paris for boycotts over French opposition to Iraq war
By Joe Kovacs
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com


As anti-French sentiment over its Iraq policy swells across America, French officials appear unfazed by a new effort in Congress to target Paris with boycotts and potential economic sanctions.

"There's no chance for it to go very far," says Emmanuel Gagniarre, press attaché at the French Embassy in Washington. "It's so far away from the actual debate. ... I don't think it's something the [Bush] administration is ready to do."


F/A-18F maneuvers at 2001 Paris Air Show (Boeing photo)

The first salvo in what could blossom into a trade war is being fired today, with the introduction of a House resolution urging a boycott of the upcoming 2003 Paris Air Show in June.

"If [the Chirac government] fails to find a way to cooperate, we'll urge U.S. citizens, companies and the military to forego participation," says the resolution's author, Rep. Jim Saxton, R-N.J.

He tells WorldNetDaily two dozen members of Congress – Democrats as well as Republicans – are co-sponsoring the non-binding measure, which could be a prelude to legislative action with more teeth, such as new trade restrictions on French products like wine and bottled water.

"We intend to pursue whatever options we have," said Saxton, who chairs the House Joint Economic Committee and is a senior member of the Armed Services Committee.

The Washington Post reported House Speaker Dennis Hastert is considering "bright orange warning labels" on French wines that are clarified with bovine blood, a practice which has since been banned in the wake of the "mad cow" scare that swept Europe in the late 1990s.


Rep. Jim Saxton, R-N.J.

Saxton says it's hard to believe the French government hasn't been more cooperative with President Bush and Secretary of State Powell in forcing Saddam Hussein to eradicate weapons of mass destruction in his country.

"The whole thing just mystifies me," he said. "When they were in need [in two World Wars], we were there to help. A lot of American blood was lost on French soil defending that country. ... We and other countries should expect help from allies whom we have helped in the past."

Gagniarre agrees on the historical facts, but not Saxton's conclusion in light of today's geopolitics.

"Americans fought for freedom in Europe. Much too many died," he said. "It's a pity, but it's not the problem now. Everything's different. We don't have to fall behind the U.S. and do whatever it wants."

Gagniarre says some $30 billion in goods are traded back and forth between France and the U.S. each year, but the entire food sector – including cheese, champagne and water – is only a small chunk at $2 billion.

France is the top exporter of water to the U.S., selling 65 million gallons here in 2001, and accounts for 25 percent of global trade in wine.

As WorldNetDaily reported yesterday, the French Embassy was swamped with over 1,000 calls in one day from Americans irate that Paris is unwilling at this point to back the use of force to ensure Iraq's compliance with U.N. resolutions.

"Your country is the worst ally we've ever had," is typical of the messages, according to a spokeswoman at the French Consulate in Los Angeles.

Gagniarre says the embassy in Washington received about 100 phone calls yesterday, and up to 800 e-mails on the issue. He says the calls are split 50-50, but admits about 70 percent of the e-mails have a negative tone.

"Some people want to insult us or complain," he said. "If people ask for information, we answer those requests for information. Insults we don't answer."

Gagniarre also doesn't think it would be in the best financial interest of aerospace companies to boycott the Paris Air Show, which hosted over 300,000 visitors and generated $60 billion dollars in aircraft orders at its last event in 2001.

"It would be totally suicidal," he said. "It's the major air show in the world. It just happens to be in France."

As WorldNetDaily reported this week, France is more unpopular among Americans now than at any time in the past decade, according to a Gallup poll.

Meanwhile, another survey just out reaffirms the negative attitude among U.S. citizens. Only 26 percent have a favorable opinion of France, reports Scott Rasmussen Public Opinion Research. Nearly half – 47 percent – have an unfavorable opinion, while 27 percent are not sure.

The poll says Germany, another nation to have publicly opposed the U.S. on Iraq, is viewed favorably by 35 percent of Americans and unfavorably by 39 percent.
 
not that i am a fan of the french, but perhaps busharooni could have waited until we actually had some conclusive proof of wmd arms building before charging off to iraq... something a little better than a static filled audio tape and a couple blurry satelite photos of some buildings and a couple beer kegs
 
Ahhh, blackmail. Can't beat that. It's like two little kids. Give me your hot wheel or I'm going to pop your bike tires!
 
Two days ago inspectors found and destroyed a few tons of mustard gas...I wonder why more people havent heard about that.
 
In Iraq??? I wonder why I have not heard about that either...strange... Well perhaps this will help sway some opinions...I still feel that Saddam needs to go, but only in the 'right way' with the support of the UN
 
Frackal said:
In Iraq??? I wonder why I have not heard about that either...strange... Well perhaps this will help sway some opinions...I still feel that Saddam needs to go, but only in the 'right way' with the support of the UN

I read it on the BBC website. It wasnt its own headline, but within a different article.
 
Frackal said:
not that i am a fan of the french, but perhaps busharooni could have waited until we actually had some conclusive proof of wmd arms building before charging off to iraq... something a little better than a static filled audio tape and a couple blurry satelite photos of some buildings and a couple beer kegs

are you joking?

what do you call the thousands of tons of chem/bio weapons found by the inspectors in the late 90's that were not accounted for by iraq in their latest report? they didnt just disappear. you cant just dump them down the drain.

did you not hear about the 16 warheads found by the UN that were capable of carrying chem/bio weapons? they found 15,000 of them in the late 90's and they were never accounted for in the latest report from iraq. where did they go?

what about the weapon systems they found just this week that are capable of flying several hundred miles, which is just one more violation of UN agreements?

what about the mustard gas they just found?

what about them saying they never had a nuclear program, even though the israelis destroyed it in the 80's?

what about the nuclear documents recently found by inspectors that show iraq is still working on nuclear weapons?

what more do you people want?
 
You dont have to convince me poink....I know that saddam will eventually become a larger threat...but I dont think we have done a very good job of proving our accusations, particularly the al-qaeda/hussein link...most of what you posted is not conclusive proof of an active bio/chemical/nuclear WMD program, other than perhaps the mustard gas and perhaps the nuclear documents, which for some reason I have not read or heard about either, but that sounds good, hopefully we will get a good body of proof and the UN will go with it.... I think the french are acting like this more out of domestic popularity reasons than anything else...same with the germans perhaps
 
The Almighty said:
I personally think we should focus on Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq.

i woulnt worry too much about that. after the iraqi war is over, the saudis are making our troops pack up and leave. they dont want our military there anymore, because we wont be needed to protect their oil wells from saddam anymore.

or so i've read. whether or not it happens, we'll see.
 
p0ink said:


i woulnt worry too much about that. after the iraqi war is over, the saudis are making our troops pack up and leave. they dont want our military there anymore, because we wont be needed to protect their oil wells from saddam anymore.

or so i've read. whether or not it happens, we'll see.

What I meant was the Saudi's deserve a bitch slap much more than Saddam does.

Hopefully after the Iraq war we can contribute to the bankrupting of Saudi Arabia by not buying another drop of oil from them.
 
this isntexactly gonna make them join the war though. all the nations in europe are opposed to the war....if they want people on side they should provide evidence

(lol at ''you're the worst allies we've ever had'' :D)
 
danielson said:
this isntexactly gonna make them join the war though. all the nations in europe are opposed to the war....if they want people on side they should provide evidence

(lol at ''you're the worst allies we've ever had'' :D)

oh really? i didnt know Britain, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Poland and Denmark were all non-european countries. maybe they are part of south america.
 
im referring to the people within the country. over 70% of britains are against a war. on saturday there is gonna be some big ass demonstration in london

expect the media to play down the numbers to like a thousand or something. they did last time :)
 
MortyJackson said:


Other way around. The media doesnt even bother mentioning pro-American rallies.

last time they reported numbers at 400,000

in actuality the procession filled the entire length of a very big street in london and beyond. if you doubled that number it MIGHT be closer

as for the pro american rally in S.korea, that was pretty scandalous on TV's part.
 
p0ink said:
2001 Paris Air Show (Boeing photo)

The first salvo in what could blossom into a trade war is being fired today, with the introduction of a House resolution urging a boycott of the upcoming 2003 Paris Air Show in June.

"If [the Chirac government] fails to find a way to cooperate, we'll urge U.S. citizens, companies and the military to forego participation," says the resolution's author, Rep. Jim Saxton, R-N.J.

He tells WorldNetDaily two dozen members of Congress – Democrats as well as Republicans – are co-sponsoring the non-binding measure, which could be a prelude to legislative action with more teeth, such as new trade restrictions on French products like wine and bottled water.

"We intend to pursue whatever options we have," said Saxton, who chairs the House Joint Economic Committee and is a senior member of the Armed Services Committee.

The Washington Post reported House Speaker Dennis Hastert is considering "bright orange warning labels" on French wines that are clarified with bovine blood, a practice which has since been banned in the wake of the "mad cow" scare that swept Europe in the late 1990s.



Sooooooo, is this trade embargo eventually going to become forced by law the same way the trade embargo with cuba is?
 
danielson said:


as for the pro american rally in S.korea, that was pretty scandalous on TV's part.

If that rally had been given its proper coverage it probably would have helped those people who were probably scared shitless that America would leave and they would be massacred by the north. Now a lot of Americans are feeling South Korea is an ungrateful piece of shit and we should let it get run over. The left doesnt care though, they would rather see anti-American protests to fuel their hatred for their own country.
 
left = unecessarily anti-patriotic during bush admin
right = blindly patriotic during bush admin
 
Frackal said:

right = blindly patriotic during bush admin

We are always going to be patriotic but its hardly blindly patriotic. There are definitely things that i am very angry with as far as Bush is concerned. However, its not something the left would agree with me on because i think Bush isnt right enough on some issues.
 
Personally I think this is a dick move on the U.S.'s part. Why we have to go stir up shit with yet another country is beyond me. We already have two countries who we're openly saying "fuck you" to. I mean it's France for Christ's sake. So they don't support us, that's fine...no big whoop. We just say "'preciate ya" and then chuckle silently if they are ever in a similar predicament as the U.S. This whole "we're not gonna show up at your air show" business is unnecessary baby drama.
 
chesty said:
Fuck the UN, they are worthless

Exactly. When people bitch about us doing stuff without UN support who do you think that really means? The support of Syria? Maybe the support of Libya? The UN is made up of third world countries that all vote together on blocks. They all have equal power despite the relative wealth, political climate and human rights in their respective countries. If you have the support of the UN you are pretty much doing what the terrorists want.
 
"The whole thing just mystifies me," he said. "When they were in need [in two World Wars], we were there to help. A lot of American blood was lost on French soil defending that country. ... We and other countries should expect help from allies whom we have helped in the past."



this is what really pisses me off....
 
who gives a shit what france thinks. so they are anti-war, so what. does the US really need france that badly? Give me a break. The congress should be more focused on the task at hand, and not wasting taxpayer money on boycotting french air shows. I fucking hate politicians.
 
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing.

Personally France can go fuck off and die.

I will purposely not go there ever knowing full well that I will miss out on their culture.

Speaking of polls, what did the last poll conclude regarding the French opinion of Americans? They dislike us.

A government boycott is the wrong move, but a purchasing and travel boycott by the american people might show the cocksucker French which side their faggy crossionts are buttered on.

Carry on.
 
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