Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I've just gone and bought a tub of SAN v12 due to alot of good feedback about it. however, i've looked at the ingredients and i make out that two doses (as recommended) only provide 6grams of creatine - i thought that the average intake was 10g daily? or does the increased absorption rate have something to do with this?
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KIAN
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SAN V12 Turbo is a volumniser/hemodilator supplement. In one 12.5 gram serving, you will be consuming 4 grams of creatine and 1.5 grams of L-arginine.
L-arginine will dilate blood vessels and allow for an increase in the absorption rate of the creatine. It is getting to be a normal practice now to combine these two components in 'pump-type' supplements.
Use the SAN V12 twice per day on workout days at 30 minutes prior to and 30 minutes after you workout. On non-workout days just use one serving. It is best used on an empty stomach to aid in the absorption rate. To further enhance the absorption rate, you can consume some dextrose shortly after using the V12.
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L-arginine will dilate blood vessels and allow for an increase in the absorption rate of the creatine. It is getting to be a normal practice now to combine these two components in 'pump-type' supplements.
Use the SAN V12 twice per day on workout days at 30 minutes prior to and 30 minutes after you workout. On non-workout days just use one serving. It is best used on an empty stomach to aid in the absorption rate. To further enhance the absorption rate, you can consume some dextrose shortly after using the V12.
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NorgePrecision
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Is dextrose the same as regular sugar? I drank some kool-aid after a workout and was wondering if that was basically the same as dextrose.
KIAN
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NorgePrecision said:
No.
Dextrose is a monosaccharide which occurs naturally in foods. It is also referred to as glucose. Glucose is the main energy source your body uses to function. Most health-food stores will carry dextrose.
'Regular sugar' or table sugar is sucrose, a disaccharide. When you consume sucrose, it is broken down into glucose and fructose but because your body must first break it down, the energy is not readily available. Sucrose is refined and is usually associated with foods which are heavily processed and should be avoided.
One serving (0.6 oz) of Kool Aid (cherry flavoured with sugar) contains 16 grams of sugar. The unsweetened version is without sugar but due to the sodium content you may retain more water if consumed at high levels.
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NorgePrecision
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I went into an organic store looking for dextrose once and the lady flipped out and told me that it causes diabetes. She basically gave me an evil eye forcing me out of the store. Any truth to this? Also, is dextrose just a transporter of protein or what exactly does it do post workout?
KIAN
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NorgePrecision said:
IF that is what she said then her understanding of how important glucose is and its function within the body needs changing.
As I mentioned, glucose is your body's main source of energy.
It is directly involved in the production of ATP (Adenosine triphosphate). You have probably heard of ATP when someone is talking about creatine. When ATP is transformed into ADP (Adenosine diphosphate) it releases energy. Your body doesn't have an endless supply of ATP and so you are only able to exert yourself for a short period of time. When Creatine Phosphate is introduced into your body in the form of a supplement, it transforms the ADP back into ATP and thus provides you with an additional energy source.
But back to the glucose: Your body stores glucose in the liver and in muscle tissue in the form of glycogen. When you require energy, either for normal functions or for physical activity, the glycogen is broken down to release glucose into the blood stream. Your pancreas tries to maintain a normal concentration of glucose in your blood by relying on two hormones ... insulin and glucagon.
When insulin is released, it causes the liver and muscle tissue to store glucose, forms fats from fatty acids and glycerol, and stimulates the liver and muscle tissue to synthesise proteins from amino acids.
When glucagon is released, it cause the liver and muscle tissue to break down glycogen and release glucose. Glucagon has the opposite effect as to Insulin but they are both required to maintain a normal blood glucose level (90 mg per 100 ml of blood) within your body.
Introducing dextrose into your diet would only become a problem if:
- an abnormal blood glucose level already existed
- you are insulin dependant
- you are insulin resistant
- your blood glucose levels were normal but you lead a sedentary lifestyle
As to the causes of diabetes:
Type 1 diabetes: Believed to be a genetic condidtion which triggers the destruction of cells which make insulin. But this is only a theory.
Type 2 diabetes: No one knows but it is primarily found in families (indicating a possible genetic trait) or in individuals who are overweight.
Gestational diabetes: Caused by a shortage of insulin during pregnancy. This usually returns to normal once the baby is born.
Also, anything which has an adverse affect on the pancrease can bring on diabetes. This includes some forms of steroids, certain medications, diseases affecting the pancrease, and high levels of niacin.
Maybe start a new thread if you need additional information as this is getting away form the original SAN V12 topic.
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NorgePrecision
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Thanks. I think you cleared that up.
Anyway, back to the topic, v12 rocks my world!!! Get some!
Anyway, back to the topic, v12 rocks my world!!! Get some!
KIAN said:
Thanks for the advice. I notice that the instructions say take two doses on workout days, preferably eight hours apart, yet the general consensus is that creatine supplements and suchlike should be taken 30 mins before and after workout.
has anyone got any thoughts or experience on this? also, if it's to be on an empty stomach, does that mean i can't take my post workout shake when i would normally take it?
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Lonsdale said:
Although it says take the doses preferably eight hours apart, it also goes on to say that, for optimum results, take it 30 minutes prior to and 30 minutes after your workout. With creatine based supplenments, you want to get it into the muscle tissue for it to work so the best time to do this is when your body is working at optimum performance levels -- working out.
As for taking it on an empty stomach, this does not mean that you have to stop eating completely. It just means that, in this case, the SAN V12 gets priority and should be consumed first and then you can follow it up with your regular meals shortly aferwards. If you were to consume some foods or a protein shake first, then the carb and fat content of those meals would interfere with the absorption rate of the creatine.
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