Safe but successful - 1st cycle

[tryharder1]

Hey guys. 22 yrs old, 15% bodyfat, 5'11, 185. 1st cycle.

Here's what I ended up with. I wanted to play it safe with the gyne, while maximizing the gains from the test. Any glaring flaws or suggestions that come to mind?

weeks 1-10: 500mg of test-e
weeks 1-10: 25mg proviron per day
week 11-12: working out hard, clean diet, 300iu hcg per day for 10 days (Also heard that this should be started in the 10th week of the test-e?)
Weeks 13-14 40mg nolvadex per day
Weeks 15-18 20mg nolvadex per day
10mg a day until back to normal

What do you think?

 

[jerichohill]

I wouldn't take the Proviron. Maybe a AI just incase you carry a little water. Arimidex is what keeps me dry.

 

[dsh89]

You probably won't need the proviron, but it won't hurt you. And yes you need an AI just in case. I bloat if I just run 400mg test-e a week. I would run Clomid instead of Nolva for your PCT. Some would say that you can run both for PCT.

 

[tryharder1]

Why is it that so few people run Proviron? As I understand it, it's pretty inexpensive, increases gains from free test and works well with something like enanthate. Also reduces possibility of gyne.

I figure my PCT is a little overboard, but better safe than sorry. Any thoughts on the HCG starting at week 9, rather than after week 10?

Final question (sorry!): I keep hearing that I should extend it to 12 weeks for the max gains. Is this viable, and if so, how does it affect my cycle?

Thanks guys.

 

[jmead]

Hey guys. 22 yrs old, 15% bodyfat, 5'11, 185. 1st cycle.

Here's what I ended up with. I wanted to play it safe with the gyne, while maximizing the gains from the test. Any glaring flaws or suggestions that come to mind?

weeks 1-10: 500mg of test-e
weeks 1-10: 25mg proviron per day
week 11-12: working out hard, clean diet, 300iu hcg per day for 10 days (Also heard that this should be started in the 10th week of the test-e?)
Weeks 13-14 40mg nolvadex per day
Weeks 15-18 20mg nolvadex per day
10mg a day until back to normal

What do you think?

stick with what you got bro.. you can run the proviron, it slightly lowers your estrogen and will keep you dry.. have an AI like letro/aromasin on hand in case you need to combat gyno (itchy sensitive swolen nipples).. the nolva is a serm will just keep the breast tissue from forming.. the ai is needed to lower the elevated estrogen levels..

eat big, grow.. and have fun

 

[20ss02]

Another vote for keeping the cycle as planned. jmead has a good point about having an AI on hand. I would use AIFM or Aromasin - Letro kills my sex drive, and I've never really needed anything that strong (even with much heavier cycles). You always have the Nolva if you encounter problems with gyno.

Keep us posted, and enjoy!

 

[Selene]

looks good, and good luck to you

 

[blut wump]

Get some aromasin or AIFM as an AI. The main use for the proviron is to mop up SHBG and give you a DHT kick. 25mg ED might be pointless and I think it'd be better to run 50mg ED 6-10 or 8-12 rather then 25mg ED 1-10.

At 5'11" 185 15%, I'd suggest it's still a little early for you to jump on the sauce.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Get some aromasin or AIFM as an AI. The main use for the proviron is to mop up SHBG and give you a DHT kick. 25mg ED might be pointless and I think it'd be better to run 50mg ED 6-10 or 8-12 rather then 25mg ED 1-10.

At 5'11" 185 15%, I'd suggest it's still a little early for you to jump on the sauce.

what he said ^^

 

[Ulter]

No need to add proviron to a first cycle unless you lose your libido.
Use AIFM throughout the cycle and PCT. Drop the nolva.

Deja Vu

 

[needtogetaas]

meh