People raved about Ttokkyyo for a long time... I don't hear the raves anymore. Personally, I thought their 10mg dbol had the same effect as my thai 5mg dbol or my Russian 5mg dbol. I'd go with the price per pill. If you can get Russian dbol at a good price, go with that. I don't think you'll be finding Ttokkyyo dbol at a great price anywhere... I don't, atleast. Still love the Russians.