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Running test should always run a SERM

misticat

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Just thought I would say anyone running anything that aromatizes should always run a SERM with it EVEN IF YOU DONT GET ANY GYNO SYMPTOMS, to limit the conversion of test to estrogen so you maximize all the test your putting in your body. Otherwise your losing some through the conversion..

tamoxifen 20mg every 4 days while on.
 
misticat said:
Just thought I would say anyone running anything that aromatizes should always run a SERM with it EVEN IF YOU DONT GET ANY GYNO SYMPTOMS, to limit the conversion of test to estrogen so you maximize all the test your putting in your body. Otherwise your losing some through the conversion..

tamoxifen 20mg every 4 days while on.

Omg. While serms are better on blood lipids than AI's, they don't limit the conversion of test to estrogen.
 
SERMs only block circulating estrogen from binding to breast tissue.

AI's prevent aromatization.

neither should be used unless you actually need them, based on history or current incipient symptoms, as both can limit gains.

AI's lower estrogen and some estrogen is good for growth and strength

SERMs lower IGF-1 levels (bro-ology - dont remember reading the studies)
 
misticat said:
Just thought I would say anyone running anything that aromatizes should always run a SERM with it EVEN IF YOU DONT GET ANY GYNO SYMPTOMS, to limit the conversion of test to estrogen so you maximize all the test your putting in your body. Otherwise your losing some through the conversion..

tamoxifen 20mg every 4 days while on.

:confused:

input is always welcome on this board--esp when there are different opinions and experiences.

this post, however, has value: is demonstrates how important it is to visit EF often and read as much as possible.....there is a lot of bad info out there.

I do so admire they way the board is self-correcting--so cheers to those bros that responded.... :beer:
 
daveyboy2345 said:
a better approach would be 1/4 mg a dex 2-3x a week.

an even better approach would be to take whatever AI you want if excess bloating (not diet related) or gyno symptoms occur

aromasin is my AI of choice - 10mg 2xEW gets the job done without taxing my joints or libido...I do NOT use masin continuously throughout, if I see gyno or bloating I will take masin twice for 1 week, wait a week, then take it twice another week if the symptoms are still there

i never take more than I need
 
serms have a tendency to have estrogen rebound once u stop taking them.

use an ai as preventative.
 
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