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Running epi and clen

livinlarge83

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I want to cut. I am planning on running a cycle of epi in a few weeks along with gw and osta. Do you think it's a good idea or would it be ok to run a cycle of clen before I start my cycle? I know it has to be cycled 2 weeks on 2 weeks off usually but I would only run for two weeks before cycle and NOT during cycle or pct. any thoughts?
 
Ok. If there are some risks then I would love to know them. What kind of dosage do you suggest?

I also read to use keto at same time as clen to help the receptors continue to react with the clen. Are there any other additional items I should be using?
 
Just research Clen side effects, a lot of them are over exaggerated. Just make sure to keep the dosing realistic. I don't see any reason to go over 100 mcg per day.

Since you only plan to use Clen for 2 weeks, you won't need the Keto. You can use some benadryl instead if you want. Keto really works well if you want to extend the usage past 2 weeks, but since you don't plan on doing that I don't see any reason to use it.

Clen can cause some cramping, and depletes Taurine from your liver, so Taurine is a must. It is cheap so not that big of a deal. 5-10 grams per day. Also make sure to be drinking plenty of water.

I would start your Clen dosing at 40mcg a day and slowly build up to 100mcg. People run it as high at 160mcg, but that is when it can get dangrous and the side effects can really outweigh the benefits. Cap it at 100-120mcg.

Day 1 - 40mcg
Day 2 - 40mcg
Day 3 - 60mcg
Day 4 - 60mcg
Day 5 - 80mcg
Day 6 - 80mcg
Day 7 - 100mcg
Day 8 - 100mcg
Day 9 - 100mcg
Day 10 - 100mcg
Day 11 - 100mcg
Day 12 - 80mcg
Day 13 - 60mcg
Day 14 - 40mcg

Something along those lines. Take the clen in the morning. You can split the dose if you would like, but don't take it past 3-4 oclock because it may cause some insomnia. If you choose to use the Keto, run at 2mg per day before bed. It will make you very drowsy. If you choose the benadryl route, 50-100 mg before bed.
 
I have done ephedra (ma huang) in the past but haven't been able to find it in a long time, it was awesome!

Are there any risks with albuterol?
 
I have done ephedra (ma huang) in the past but haven't been able to find it in a long time, it was awesome!

Are there any risks with albuterol?

There are risk with anything you take. However used responsibly albuterol or ephedrine can be done safely.

If you live in the US just go to your local pharmacy and buy primatene or bronkaid, primatene has 12.5mg of ephedrine per pill and bronkaid has 25mg of ephedrine per pill. If you live in Canada you can buy ephedrine hcl by kaizen. Idk about other countries though.
 
Wow, thanks for the tip! I will check out my local vitamins shoppe for hose products. Is the ephedrine the same as the ephedra I used to take?

Also, I am planning on taking epi, gw and osta as recommended by Dylan as my cycle. Do you think I should add albuterol into the mix or is that too much? I was really lookin to do a quick fat burn before I started my cycle but not opposed to doing it all at once if it's safe...
 
Wow, thanks for the tip! I will check out my local vitamins shoppe for hose products. Is the ephedrine the same as the ephedra I used to take?

Also, I am planning on taking epi, gw and osta as recommended by Dylan as my cycle. Do you think I should add albuterol into the mix or is that too much? I was really lookin to do a quick fat burn before I started my cycle but not opposed to doing it all at once if it's safe...

Albuterol is a good addition to that cycle. You should not run albuterol and ephedrine at the same time.

You can't get the ephedrine at a vitamin shoppe you will need to go to the pharmacy counter to buy it.

Ephedrine is the compound that comes from ephedra that gives the fat burning effect. It's like yohimbe and yohimbine, yohimbe is the tree bark and yohimbine is the substance inside it that exhibits the effects.
 
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