ive been on it going on 75mg , 3 weeks, no water at all, pure strength&endurence, they are qv oxivet 75's also running test at 400mg week, ive gotten leaner and bigger I was already on the test when I threw in the drols. I havent cycled in over a year and just came back from a year layoff from bodybuilding or working out period. I dont ever recall not being able to get sore before, Ive got my first leg workout today, we will see what happens.