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Texas Ranger
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I'm also curious, Anal...
It's as easy as:
1.) Fina 75mg's ED/EOD
2.) Test prop 75mg's ED/EOD
3.) Winny added in the last 6-8 weeks if needed. 50-100mg's PER day.
4.) Eq...optional, but 400-600mg's should do it.
5.) T3 25-100mcg's per day
6.) ECY
7.) Yohimburn
8.) r-ALA...or at leas rs-ala
BMJ
1.) Fina 75mg's ED/EOD
2.) Test prop 75mg's ED/EOD
3.) Winny added in the last 6-8 weeks if needed. 50-100mg's PER day.
4.) Eq...optional, but 400-600mg's should do it.
5.) T3 25-100mcg's per day
6.) ECY
7.) Yohimburn
8.) r-ALA...or at leas rs-ala
BMJ
Dr.Equinstein
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If you use T3 at low doses can you still build lean mass? It is effective at helping the body utilize protein..correct??
barbell265
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Dr.Equinstein said:
Correct, it helps with protein synthisis but has low androgenic values. It increases lipolysis, RNA transferr and one other item,(I forget). Go to google.com and type in "cytomel". There are a lot of good scientific sources available there.
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WARBIRDWS6
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Anal AssPlorer said:
i was thinking of doing that for 12 weeks next time around myself. 800mg of EQ for 12 weeks, with winny and or tren thrown in there. but i figure stagger the winny, and not for the whole cycle (whereas with tren it can go 12 weeks no prob if you ask me). why not get the fuck back on the board and explain yourself goddamnit.
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WARBIRDWS6
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Axe said:
Warbirds...you kill me brother
we gotta give these veiny guys some tough love to get them to explain themselves sometimes. its for their own good.
Dr.Equinstein
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WARBIRDWS6 said:
Why would you stagger the winny?
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WARBIRDWS6
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Dr.Equinstein said:
after a few stories i have heard on liver values and winny, makes me kind of nervous. i have taken 3 IP winny a day for extended periods....so don't get me wrong....but better safe than sorry. plus my hair is nice and not falling out now after three months on spiro/nizoral/minoxidil.....so i wouldn't want to aggravate the shit out of it with ED winny for 3 months. although i may just do that......
Zyglamail said:
I had some taken the other day (12th) send me an email addy, cause EF sometimes fucks up. Anyone else, send me their addy as well.
You can always find me on the chat section or PM me.
Ok, my dose is (this is my very first cycle)
600mg EQ weekly
50mg winny daily. 1 zambon one day, BD tabs the next day
I was already 231 before I started and now I am about 239.5 (have not broken 240 yet) the weight gains doesn't appear much, but it is all muscle density and hardness.
Also, I already had my abs visible before going on cycle.
Prop is cheap. As long as test isn't excessive, and L-dex is used, it doesn't cause much water weight problems. Heck, you may not even need Arimdex at low dose test. I'd have at least 300-600mg's per week until 3 weeks before an event (dependng on how sensitive you are to it). Yes, the cycle will be just as effective without test, but you will feel 150% better with it in there, especially in combo with fina. This has been stated by many.
The bottom line is DIET!!!!!If this is not in order, then it make it a hell of a lot harder to be "veiny".
Cardio...HIIT...helps as well.
Lower Sodium (not competely)...and add more Potassium.
Drink 1-2 gallons of H20 minimum.
And of course, decent genetics helps.
BMJ
The bottom line is DIET!!!!!If this is not in order, then it make it a hell of a lot harder to be "veiny".
Cardio...HIIT...helps as well.
Lower Sodium (not competely)...and add more Potassium.
Drink 1-2 gallons of H20 minimum.
And of course, decent genetics helps.
BMJ
Winny doesn't have to be added until the final half/stages of the diet. If you are fatass, then just use test/fina until you get to around 8-9%, THEN add the Winny. Don't waste your money. Winny is awesome though....especially for skin "appearance".
Obviously, since Eq takes quite awhile to kick in, you will need to start it early in the cycle. I'd run it all the way through any cycle if it is gonna be used.
BMJ
Obviously, since Eq takes quite awhile to kick in, you will need to start it early in the cycle. I'd run it all the way through any cycle if it is gonna be used.
BMJ
JG1 said:
The entire cycle. I have no abnormal liver or chlosterol count either. I had complete blood work done back when I was in that fight and busted the guy up badly. So, I had all blood work done to make sure he did not have Hep A or B and infect me.
Anyone that wants to see the pic I took from last week can email me at:
[email protected]
I posted my cycle. My training is :
Mon - Quads and calves
Tues - Chest and Biceps
Wed - Off, swim 2 miles in the ocean
Thurs - Back and Hams
Fri - Shoulders, Traps, Triceps
Sat - calves (if I decide to go in, or I swim another 2 miles)
Sun - Off
Diet wise, I am at 350 grams of protein daily with about 120 grams of that coming from ProteinFactory ion whey. Carbs are moderate, fat is low to moderate. But on Sat and Sun I have more carbs than usual.
Mon - Quads and calves
Tues - Chest and Biceps
Wed - Off, swim 2 miles in the ocean
Thurs - Back and Hams
Fri - Shoulders, Traps, Triceps
Sat - calves (if I decide to go in, or I swim another 2 miles)
Sun - Off
Diet wise, I am at 350 grams of protein daily with about 120 grams of that coming from ProteinFactory ion whey. Carbs are moderate, fat is low to moderate. But on Sat and Sun I have more carbs than usual.
A lot of people have asked about my diet and how I train. Rather than keep repeating it in individual emails, I will just post it here.
My diet is really nothing special. I only count protein and just use common sense about the carbs.
This is what I have consumed today so far. (7PM now)
7AM LeanBody Protein shake 42 grams + 25 grams of ProteinFactory ion whey
total 67 grams
930AM 8 oz Sirlion steak (trimmed fat off edges after grilling)
and a small serving of rissotto (sp?). I am guessing about 45 grams of protein here. Not sure. I don't have a food index guide. Not sure about the carbs either.
Noon ProteinFactory ion whey in water 60 grams
230PM One chicken breast and handful of scalloped potatos. Guessing about 35 grams of protein.
4PM One glass (8oz) of cranberry juice before training
Training:
Chest
Pec Dec 3 sets slow reps of 160 for 12 reps, pausing at both the start and finish of the movement.
Incline Dumbells
3 sets 140 for 12 reps
Incline flyes (flat bench with just a step up platform under it about 30 degree incline)
3 set 60 for 10 reps
Flat Bench rest pause style reps. Lower weight to chest and hold still for two count and then press upwards.
3 set 225 for 12 - 10 - 10 reps
Biceps
Incline Cable Curls
3 sets 120 for 15 reps
Seated Dumbell curls
3 sets 60 pounds for 8 reps. controlled from start to finish, no cheating or snatching.
Narrow Grip Pullups (pinkies touching) superset with Hammer Curls
3 sets 20-18-15 reps / 3 sets 45 for 15 reps
This was my light workout. Next workout will be basic movements with heavier weights, reps in the range of 6-8 with a spotter.
After workout 530PM
60 grams of Protein Factory ion whey, 80 grams dextrose, 10 grams of glutamine.
7PM (now) will be eating chicken breast and rissotto again.
10Pm more Protein Factory ion whey and glutamine before bed.
YOu can look at it and guess my carb and fat intake. I never count it as I said.
Now on the days I don't train, my carbs and fats are a little higher and my protein a little lower. The carbs keep me filling full without all the protein I would eat otherwise.
My diet is really nothing special. I only count protein and just use common sense about the carbs.
This is what I have consumed today so far. (7PM now)
7AM LeanBody Protein shake 42 grams + 25 grams of ProteinFactory ion whey
total 67 grams
930AM 8 oz Sirlion steak (trimmed fat off edges after grilling)
and a small serving of rissotto (sp?). I am guessing about 45 grams of protein here. Not sure. I don't have a food index guide. Not sure about the carbs either.
Noon ProteinFactory ion whey in water 60 grams
230PM One chicken breast and handful of scalloped potatos. Guessing about 35 grams of protein.
4PM One glass (8oz) of cranberry juice before training
Training:
Chest
Pec Dec 3 sets slow reps of 160 for 12 reps, pausing at both the start and finish of the movement.
Incline Dumbells
3 sets 140 for 12 reps
Incline flyes (flat bench with just a step up platform under it about 30 degree incline)
3 set 60 for 10 reps
Flat Bench rest pause style reps. Lower weight to chest and hold still for two count and then press upwards.
3 set 225 for 12 - 10 - 10 reps
Biceps
Incline Cable Curls
3 sets 120 for 15 reps
Seated Dumbell curls
3 sets 60 pounds for 8 reps. controlled from start to finish, no cheating or snatching.
Narrow Grip Pullups (pinkies touching) superset with Hammer Curls
3 sets 20-18-15 reps / 3 sets 45 for 15 reps
This was my light workout. Next workout will be basic movements with heavier weights, reps in the range of 6-8 with a spotter.
After workout 530PM
60 grams of Protein Factory ion whey, 80 grams dextrose, 10 grams of glutamine.
7PM (now) will be eating chicken breast and rissotto again.
10Pm more Protein Factory ion whey and glutamine before bed.
YOu can look at it and guess my carb and fat intake. I never count it as I said.
Now on the days I don't train, my carbs and fats are a little higher and my protein a little lower. The carbs keep me filling full without all the protein I would eat otherwise.
Texas Ranger
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I like your diet, brother! It's simple, yet VERY effective! Karma goes to AAP!!!
Rissotto - I am not sure if I spelled that right - resembles creamy rice. It is like rice with a slight cream sauce to it.
The trick to avoiding dry chicken breasts is NOT to cook them all the way throughly. I know this sounds bad and unsafe for your health, but when you throw them in the micro for 2 minutes (not just 1 minute for warming up) it will cook them the rest of the way.
If it is still dry, you can add bar b q sauce to it (like Coleman did in his video)
Also when microwaving, make sure you keep a napkin over the plate to keep it from drying it out.
The trick to avoiding dry chicken breasts is NOT to cook them all the way throughly. I know this sounds bad and unsafe for your health, but when you throw them in the micro for 2 minutes (not just 1 minute for warming up) it will cook them the rest of the way.
If it is still dry, you can add bar b q sauce to it (like Coleman did in his video)
Also when microwaving, make sure you keep a napkin over the plate to keep it from drying it out.
