Prop is cheap. As long as test isn't excessive, and L-dex is used, it doesn't cause much water weight problems. Heck, you may not even need Arimdex at low dose test. I'd have at least 300-600mg's per week until 3 weeks before an event (dependng on how sensitive you are to it). Yes, the cycle will be just as effective without test, but you will feel 150% better with it in there, especially in combo with fina. This has been stated by many.
The bottom line is DIET!!!!!If this is not in order, then it make it a hell of a lot harder to be "veiny".
Cardio...HIIT...helps as well.
Lower Sodium (not competely)...and add more Potassium.
Drink 1-2 gallons of H20 minimum.
And of course, decent genetics helps.
BMJ