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RFID Technology
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SPEKTOR-AAA
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agreed. They are talking about planting these RFID chips in people, well they already have. I am referring to a mass level though. I guess like an ID tag of sorts. I personally will not go for something like this EVER.
mrplunkey
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GPS technology + cell phones + electronic payments only + RFID technology = massive crime reduction.
Picture this: You'd use a biometric scan to activate your cell phone, which is the gateway to your personal finances. Even if you are using a web site to pay for something, the site would text you a simple message (i.e. "$142.28 payment requested, approve?"). It would make identify fraud virtually impossible.
Then combine GPS and RFID technology so your phone would interact with your body (chip implanted, of course) so while you are with your phone, you'd clearly be trackable on the grid. And if you walked away from your cell phone, passive RFID readers would be everywhere -- grocery store doors, neighborhood entrances, street corners, post office, etc. etc.
Then imagine how hard crime would be. Who is going to buy crack on a credit card? If someone is murdered, you can have a list of everyone they've interacted with for the past few years -- by hour. So how could you commit a crime? You'd have to be away from your cell phone (which means it can't involve money), away from passive RFID readers AND make sure you didn't kill someone who was near THEIR cell phone (since it would read your RFID and transmit it).
It would be a brave new world! Technology would make us all safer and happier.
Picture this: You'd use a biometric scan to activate your cell phone, which is the gateway to your personal finances. Even if you are using a web site to pay for something, the site would text you a simple message (i.e. "$142.28 payment requested, approve?"). It would make identify fraud virtually impossible.
Then combine GPS and RFID technology so your phone would interact with your body (chip implanted, of course) so while you are with your phone, you'd clearly be trackable on the grid. And if you walked away from your cell phone, passive RFID readers would be everywhere -- grocery store doors, neighborhood entrances, street corners, post office, etc. etc.
Then imagine how hard crime would be. Who is going to buy crack on a credit card? If someone is murdered, you can have a list of everyone they've interacted with for the past few years -- by hour. So how could you commit a crime? You'd have to be away from your cell phone (which means it can't involve money), away from passive RFID readers AND make sure you didn't kill someone who was near THEIR cell phone (since it would read your RFID and transmit it).
It would be a brave new world! Technology would make us all safer and happier.
SPEKTOR-AAA
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I think its the "tracking" factor that freaks me out. Granted all the examples you gave are persuasive, but criminals find ways to be criminals nomatter what the obstacle. It will just be more extreme.
jiggagold
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till a crook swiped his rfid scanner right next to you and got all your info in under a second, and had access to everything
chris302001
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I'd like to chip all you mothafuckas! :Mr Chow voice:
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uamaverick
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advancement of technology will never reduce crime permanently, perhaps temporarily. Look at computer software and hackers. A software company releases a new version of a program, with "better security". If they're lucky, the hackers don't already have a workaround for it, but if they don't, be rest assured that they will shortly after the program launches. It's a constant game of tug o' war.
If biochips were ever implemented, you can guarantee a team of guys are working 15 hours a day to create a jammer/fake/reroute around it. Whoever develops something for that first automatically becomes insanely rich.
If biochips were ever implemented, you can guarantee a team of guys are working 15 hours a day to create a jammer/fake/reroute around it. Whoever develops something for that first automatically becomes insanely rich.
mrplunkey
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Naw... if you had the right security tied into your cell phone, there would be plenty of safety. Microprocessor power is cheap, so do something like very high order PGP security.
Okay, so if everyone is alright with GPS and RFID tech, chipping and all sorts of other ways to invade privacy becoming commonplace, will someone explain why government isn't asking you provide fingerprints and a DNA swab upon testing for and receipt of your first driver's license? The time will come, in the not terribly distant future, where a centralized national database for this sort of information isn't an unreasonable expectation.
mrplunkey
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That's a great idea, but let's just swab babies as they are born. Why wait until 15 or 16 years old?
Primarily because parents are weird and neurotic when it comes to their fresh out of the wrapper pinkies. But pragmatically, you wanna make a fortune? Figure out how to implant a teeny chip at birth, like LoJack for newborn babies. Hell, we can do it to a car. That'll solve a helluva lot of problems when it comes to kidnapping, runaways, etc.
But I say driver's license (and once the law is enacted, information would get collected when you renew your license) because very, very few people would squawk. Most of them would be like "Yeah, whatever, sure, just give me my damned license, I have to get to work." Plus, you'd have fingerprints from a 16 year old, which would be vastly more useful than those of an infant.
mrplunkey
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I like all of these ideas. Imagine coordinating all of out rfid's with the ever-increasing number of cameras.
I know there are a lot of people who are very hung up on privacy issues. What I don't get is, WHY? Seriously. Between the govt., credit agencies, medicine and every other organization and agency that requests your social security number, there IS no privacy. It's an illusion. Street cameras? Shit, they've had them in the EU since forever, now in this country red light cameras are a municipal source of income. Screw it, let's step it up and turn it into true security. There is no need for public spaces to have privacy.
mrplunkey
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/agree
Once you put government in charge of food, water, medicine, healthcare, lending, retirement and half of you income, who really cares if they film you crossing the intersection?
SPEKTOR-AAA
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The freedoms our country was built upon worked then. We no longer get away with those freedoms in todays world. Technology and population increases make that impossible.
If we think for even a minute that we have privacy we are crazy. To me what freedoms we do have we take for granite, always have and always will.
If we think for even a minute that we have privacy we are crazy. To me what freedoms we do have we take for granite, always have and always will.
Some ideas work great for small companies, but are unmanageable for large companies. Some ideas are great for both large and small companies. Some ideas are just plain shitty.
Redsam, stop hacking Plunkey's account.
lol @ granite, its granted brah
too much government is the problem. I dont want a fuckin ID chip so I shouldnt have to have one lol. That simple. Government needs to focus on getting us out of debt before they worry about stopping fuckin crime which isnt ever gonna happen.
Americans are pretty stupid at this point
Are you being serious or joking? My dad is the one that researches all this and I learn a lot from him. Its not hard to research these things and find out the truth about our gov't
chris302001
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mrplunkey
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Everything is Bush's fault!
We need a bookie event on when the first Obama economic advisor blames the earthquake on the slow US recovery.
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