Resturant refuses to serve O.J. Simpson

[redguru]

He was one of the original Lil Rascals and he was Baretta, a great cop show in the 70's. Everyone over 35 knows RB.

Another asshole who got off scott-free with murder.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Another asshole who got off scott-free with murder.

What about Robert Wagner... Didn't he drown Natalie Woods?

Or was it some other dude?

Damn, lotta scandal up in this bitch.

 

[gjohnson5]

my answer:

1. Well , I don't agree that OJ is guilty considering the information about OJ and Nicole's drug habit and the fact that the LAPD planted evidence.

pls refresh my caffine deprived memory?

 

[biteme]

I'm gonna break this down for all of ya later cause I'm the smartest person on this board. Here's one thing about the race issue. A lot of whites think OJ wouldn't have killed his wife had she been black (if he did kill her at all). They think he killed the white bitch because blacks don't like whites and blacks think the same thing about whites. Its a vicous cycle. Anyway, all the bickering between blacks and whites, we all come together when it really matters and all the dummies that say there will be a race war ( well, they are just dummies) That will never happen, if any bad dudes of either race started that shit, their own kind would help take them out... I'll have more insight later.

 

[gjohnson5]

Biteme , I'm so glad you said that, because I would still be playing the race card if I said that

I wasnt about to bring up the scenario of OJ being white and nicole black , because I know this would be a totally different discussion if it were

I'm gonna break this down for all of ya later cause I'm the smartest person on this board. Here's one thing about the race issue. A lot of whites think OJ wouldn't have killed his wife had she been black (if he did kill her at all). They think he killed the white bitch because blacks don't like whites and blacks think the same thing about whites. Its a vicous cycle. Anyway, all the bickering between blacks and whites, we all come together when it really matters and all the dummies that say there will be a race war ( well, they are just dummies) That will never happen, if any bad dudes of either race started that shit, their own kind would help take them out... I'll have more insight later.

 

[redguru]

What about Robert Wagner... Didn't he drown Natalie Woods?

Or was it some other dude?

Damn, lotta scandal up in this bitch.

Or that bi friend of Colonel Hogan who strangled him with an electrical cord. The Black Dahlia murder was never solved either. John Landis caused Vic Morrow's and those two little kid's deaths by urging the helicopter lower and lower. The pilot couldn't see Vic.

 

[Gambino]

based on what i know, i'm gonna say with confidence that oj def did it
i think most people agree...and i while race is def a byline in the story, the main byline should be the murder of two innocents and the system that allow a man to go free because of $$$

 

[gjohnson5]

Take that back... There would be no discussion at all.

Biteme , I'm so glad you said that, because I would still be playing the race card if I said that

I wasnt about to bring up the scenario of OJ being white and nicole black , because I know this would be a totally different discussion if it were

 

[biteme]

Biteme , I'm so glad you said that, because I would still be playing the race card if I said that

I wasnt about to bring up the scenario of OJ being white and nicole black , because I know this would be a totally different discussion if it were

I'll have more later. It's an issue of trust more than anything. I see both perspectives and the assumptions that people make are often wrong. I'm neither pro black or pro white, but pro human.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Biteme , I'm so glad you said that, because I would still be playing the race card if I said that

I wasnt about to bring up the scenario of OJ being white and nicole black , because I know this would be a totally different discussion if it were

Do you think people would be less horrified if everything else about the case were the same except for switching OJ and Nicole's race?

You have got to be kidding me.

I mean, you are 100% entitled to your opinion and I absolutely support your right to voice it, but I have a hard time believing that is what you said.

 

[redguru]

based on what i know, i'm gonna say with confidence that oj def did it
i think most people agree...and i while race is def a byline in the story, the main byline should be the murder of two innocents and the system that allow a man to go free because of $$$

Not because of money, but because of inept investigation and prosecution of the act. The OJ trial should have spun numerous investigations into the LAPD. Every Assistant DA involved in the case should have been shit-canned.

If Oj didn't do it, GJohnson, why was he suicidal right after the act and doing the whole naked in the back of Al Cowlings' Bronco bit? If he knew he was innocent and had the money for a damn good lawyer, which Johnny Cochran was, why idn't he turn himself in at the appointed hour? Instead, he fucked up the Knicks/Rockets game.

 

[Gambino]

Not because of money, but because of inept investigation and prosecution of the act. The OJ trial should have spun numerous investigations into the LAPD. Every Assistant DA involved in the case should have been shit-canned.

If Oj didn't do it, GJohnson, why was he suicidal right after the act and doing the whole naked in the back of Al Cowlings' Bronco bit? If he knew he was innocent and had the money for a damn good lawyer, which Johnny Cochran was, why idn't he turn himself in at the appointed hour? Instead, he fucked up the Knicks/Rockets game.

money played a big part in the circus of a court case...w/o money, no stellar dream defense team, easy w for the state, even with inept lapd

 

[Bikini Mod]

Not because of money, but because of inept investigation and prosecution of the act. The OJ trial should have spun numerous investigations into the LAPD. Every Assistant DA involved in the case should have been shit-canned.

If Oj didn't do it, GJohnson, why was he suicidal right after the act and doing the whole naked in the back of Al Cowlings' Bronco bit? If he knew he was innocent and had the money for a damn good lawyer, which Johnny Cochran was, why idn't he turn himself in at the appointed hour? Instead, he fucked up the Knicks/Rockets game.

I think that he is guilty as shit, however, this behavior is NOT indicative of guilt. It is indicative of fear. Guilt has naught to do with whether or not you are going down. And as for "innocent until proven guilty" - yea bite me. As anyone who has ever been accused of a crime they did not commit can tell you - once you are accused YOU ARE GUILTY regardless.

I am speaking from experience and I know of at least two others who have had the same experience.

 

[gjohnson5]

I'm horrified at having to believe that but I agree with Biteme.
It is true

Do you think people would be less horrified if everything else about the case were the same except for switching OJ and Nicole's race?

You have got to be kidding me.

I mean, you are 100% entitled to your opinion and I absolutely support your right to voice it, but I have a hard time believing that is what you said.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I'm horrified at having to believe that but I agree with Biteme.
It is true

Well if that is your opinion then you are entitled to it.

The only thing that horrifies me (after the gruesome murder and the violence against women) is that the murderer was given legal and physical custody of his children. No race there just women and children being victimized and that, my friends, transcends all race, religions and socio-economic backgrounds.

 

[gjohnson5]

I agree that if he's a murderer then he is an unfit father. The fact that the man was acquitted doesn't seem to matter. The jury was not hung. All jurors acquitted him. It's not like the Rodney King case where the police were caught on tape beating the man and were still acquitted.

But the fact that many say Rodney deserved his beating is the reason why I'm saying the race of the victim has alot to do with the discussion. I find it pathetic that minorities ca be beaten on TV clearly on camera such as the immigration rally and the discussion is still on a man acquitted of murder.

Interesting that there's no discussion about that...

Well if that is your opinion then you are entitled to it.

The only thing that horrifies me (after the gruesome murder and the violence against women) is that the murderer was given legal and physical custody of his children. No race there just women and children being victimized and that, my friends, transcends all race, religions and socio-economic backgrounds.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I agree that if he's a murderer then he is an unfit father. The fact that the man was acquitted doesn't seem to matter. The jury was not hung. All jurors acquitted him. It's not like the Rodney King case where the police were caught on tape beating the man and were still acquitted.

But the fact that many say Rodney deserved his beating is the reason why I'm saying the race of the victim has alot to do with the discussion. I find it pathetic that minorities ca be beaten on TV clearly on camera such as the immigration rally and the discussion is still on a man acquitted of murder.

Interesting that there's no discussion about that...

From what I understand Rodney King would not have been beaten if he would have just stayed down. Am I incorrect, because that is all I seem to recall about that particular incident.

And was OJ not found CIVILLY liable for both murders?

 

[Phaded]

You clearly haven't comprehended any of my previous 56,235 responses on this topic so let me sum it up for you.


1. O.J. is guilty and I hope he gets hit be a meteor...preferably a small one so he suffers for a while.
2. With the help of incompetent prosecutors the defense SUCCESSFULLY presented a case for reasonable doubt. Anyone who believes otherwise is using evidence that the jurors didn't have access to.
3. Innocent people go to jail and guilty people get off nearly every day in America. I just choose to be no more and no less upset about this case than I am any other simply because O.J. is involved.
4. I just wish you nappy headed crackers would be honest and admit the *ONLY* reason we're still talking about this is cuz he killed a hot blond. If he killed his first wife y'all wouldn't give two shits. Not one of you says a thing about Robert Blake blowing a hole thru his wife ever.

man i have a nice head of hair dt that was def a low blow ... my mistake..

 

[AAP]

Goddamn OJ ruining more innocent lives with this thread.

 

[blueta2]

I agree that if he's a murderer then he is an unfit father. The fact that the man was acquitted doesn't seem to matter. The jury was not hung. All jurors acquitted him. It's not like the Rodney King case where the police were caught on tape beating the man and were still acquitted.

But the fact that many say Rodney deserved his beating is the reason why I'm saying the race of the victim has alot to do with the discussion. I find it pathetic that minorities ca be beaten on TV clearly on camera such as the immigration rally and the discussion is still on a man acquitted of murder.

Interesting that there's no discussion about that...

It's interesting that there is no discussion about black on black crime which happens a hell of a lot more than a white cop abusing a black criminal.
I think the black community needs to stop putting the focus on racism and start to look at their own commiting serious crimes against once another.
The fact remains, most prisoners are black. Is that b/c everyone is racist?

Rodney King did not deserve a beating, but once the video was all over the news, blacks in LA went crazy and almost killed a white truck driver!
There are many smart blacks who are getting educated and are not blaming whites for all thier issues.
Personally, I am SICK of everyone playing the race card!

 

[gjohnson5]

What's the part in bold supposed to mean?

As far as black on black crime , we'll need to start another thread , because that's totally off topic from this discussion.

It's interesting that there is no discussion about black on black crime which happens a hell of a lot more than a white cop abusing a black criminal.
I think the black community needs to stop putting the focus on racism and start to look at their own commiting serious crimes against once another.
The fact remains, most prisoners are black. Is that b/c everyone is racist?

Rodney King did not deserve a beating, but once the video was all over the news, blacks in LA went crazy and almost killed a white truck driver!
There are many smart blacks who are getting educated and are not blaming whites for all thier issues.
Personally, I am SICK of everyone playing the race card!

 

[gjohnson5]

It's called a riot
I agree the anger was misdirected , but this is not the first time I have said that

It's interesting that there is no discussion about black on black crime which happens a hell of a lot more than a white cop abusing a black criminal.
I think the black community needs to stop putting the focus on racism and start to look at their own commiting serious crimes against once another.
The fact remains, most prisoners are black. Is that b/c everyone is racist?

Rodney King did not deserve a beating, but once the video was all over the news, blacks in LA went crazy and almost killed a white truck driver!
There are many smart blacks who are getting educated and are not blaming whites for all thier issues.
Personally, I am SICK of everyone playing the race card!

 

[blueta2]

What's the part in bold supposed to mean?

As far as black on black crime , we'll need to start another thread , because that's totally off topic from this discussion.

It means black have always blamed whites for not getting good jobs or an education. Yes 50 yrs ago it was tough for blacks to get respect. Today it is no where near that.
In my eyes, there are two different sort of ppl, those that complain and those that act and make a difference.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I would like clarification: Is it true that had Rodney King just stayed down he would not have received that beating?

If I am incorrect, I apologize, but I do remember a commentator saying that had he just stayed on the ground (as they would have expected a criminal of any color to do) he would not have gotten that beating. In other words, once he stayed down he was no longer hit.

Could somebody in the know please provide some clarification?

 

[Dial_tone]

I
I think the black community needs to stop putting the focus on racism and start to look at their own commiting serious crimes against once another.
The fact remains, most prisoners are black. Is that b/c everyone is racist?

Red K from now on every time somebody white refers to the "black community". Just where is it anyway? Is it like one of those tram rides at San Diego Wild Animal park where white folks go to to observe blacks in their native environment? hmmm. I can see it now.


White Mom: Look Johnny! See those black teenage boys over there?
Son: Yes, Mommy
White Mom: They've already given up on getting an education because they already realize no matter what they do they're going to be held back by "The Man".
Son: "What man, Mommy"?
White Mom: That would be your father, because he won't give them jobs when there's somebody else more qualified.
Son: ohh, but they're all Green Bay Packers fans like me! They have cheese heads.

White Mom: ha ha...no, Johnny. Those are bricks of Gubment cheese in their hands. That's what they eat since Daddy won't give them a job.
Son: You always make me cheese sammiches, Mommy. Can I be black too?
White Mom: You don't really want to be black, son. Even though blacks and whites are equal we still have better than they do.



Blueta, please enlighten us with your opinion on the disparity of sentencing between cocaine and crack sales/possession?

 

[redguru]

Red K from now on every time somebody white refers to the "black community". Just where is it anyway? Is it like one of those tram rides at San Diego Wild Animal park where white folks go to to observe blacks in their native environment? hmmm. I can see it now.


White Mom: Look Johnny! See those black teenage boys over there?
Son: Yes, Mommy
White Mom: They've already given up on getting an education because they already realize no matter what they do they're going to be held back by "The Man".
Son: "What man, Mommy"?
White Mom: That would be your father, because he won't give them jobs when there's somebody else more qualified.
Son: ohh, but they're all Green Bay Packers fans like me! They have cheese heads.

White Mom: ha ha...no, Johnny. Those are bricks of Gubment cheese in their hands. That's what they eat since Daddy won't give them a job.
Son: You always make me cheese sammiches, Mommy. Can I be black too?
White Mom: You don't really want to be black, son. Even though blacks and whites are equal we still have better than they do.

LOL, Although I agree with you that lumping people into a big niche is wrong, Jeese and Al still call it the "black Community" and play it up to people that donate to their "cause".

 

[gjohnson5]

I hate to say it honey but you need to stop posting on this entirely...
That gotta be the most ridiculous statement anyone's made in the whole thread.

It means black have always blamed whites for not getting good jobs or an education. Yes 50 yrs ago it was tough for blacks to get respect. Today it is no where near that.
In my eyes, there are two different sort of ppl, those that complain and those that act and make a difference.

 

[Dial_tone]

IYes 50 yrs ago it was tough for blacks to get respect. Today it is no where near that.

Tough to get respect? Boy, that's understatement. 40 years ago we were still being killed for whistling at white women. Some of the people that did the killing are still alive today. Their opinion hasn't changed much...just their ability to hold a gun steady.

 

[Phaded]

what about affirmative action

 

[DannoMight]

Man I just got in from work and this thread is still goin?

 

[gjohnson5]

see , her posts have now opened up a HUGE can of worms.
This used to be specifically about OJ and now it has transformed into affirmative action (which I don't support) and equal opportunity issues.

Noone touched any of that in this whole thread until blueta came along

what about affirmative action

 

[Phaded]

its pretty cool how something can go from oj simpson to affirmative action..

 

[crew9]

The fact remains, most prisoners are black. Is that b/c everyone is racist?

d!

I really don't get why minorities think that white people are ignorant about their problems. I just don't get it.........

 

[jnevin]

its pretty cool how something can go from oj simpson to affirmative action..

It's simple. The guy is a piece of shit that beat and murdered his wife and got away with it. Plain and simple. No need to get all Rosa Parks about it. Fuck.

 

[blueta2]

I hate to say it honey but you need to stop posting on this entirely...
That gotta be the most ridiculous statement anyone's made in the whole thread.

Hate to tell ya, but no it's not a ridiculous statement. It's a very REAL statement!
I'm not going to turn this into a black vs white post.
Honey, I've been on this planet almost 41 yrs, I've seen enough to know what I'm talking about

 

[blueta2]

Tough to get respect? Boy, that's understatement. 40 years ago we were still being killed for whistling at white women. Some of the people that did the killing are still alive today. Their opinion hasn't changed much...just their ability to hold a gun steady.

And women are beaten everyday by white males. We also do not get respect.
Black community doesn't mean to me what it means to you.
We use these terms like "the white community, Hispanic, Chinese" etc.
It's a very politically correct term.

 

[blueta2]

see , her posts have now opened up a HUGE can of worms.
This used to be specifically about OJ and now it has transformed into affirmative action (which I don't support) and equal opportunity issues.

Noone touched any of that in this whole thread until blueta came along

yeah debate is healthy. One thing leads to another and I am entitled to offer my opinion.....
And the "race" issues was raised way before I came into this discussion

 

[gotmilk]

I would like clarification: Is it true that had Rodney King just stayed down he would not have received that beating?

Nope, he was going to get an ass beating. Failure to stop, then stopping only to take off again is an automatic 30 hits with a night-stick.

 

[jnevin]

Nope, he was going to get an ass beating. Failure to stop, then stopping only to take off again is an automatic 30 hits with a night-stick.

You'll get that beating no matter what color you are.

 

[gotmilk]

You'll get that beating no matter what color you are.

Mel Gibson needed one

 

[jnevin]

Mel Gibson needed one

The jooz wouldn't have allowed it.

 

[gotmilk]

The jooz wouldn't have allowed it.

They should have beat some sense into Paris.

 

[blueta2]

They should have beat some sense into Paris.

I agree with that........she is rich trash! A shame to our "white community" ;-)

 

[jnevin]

They should have beat some sense into Paris.

That would be fun to watch.

 

[DannoMight]

Nope, he was going to get an ass beating. Failure to stop, then stopping only to take off again is an automatic 30 hits with a night-stick.

You forgot that he attacked the cops first and the person with the camera started filming after his futile attack. Wasn't he also under the influence?

 

[jnevin]

You forgot that he attacked the cops first and the person with the camera started filming after his futile attack. Wasn't he also under the influence?

Yeah, and they thought he was dusted, which is pretty fucked if you've ever seen anyone lose it on that shit.

 

[blueta2]

here ya go, read this

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/lapd/kingarrests.html

I don't care what color this jerk was, he was a menace and a trouble maker

 

[gotmilk]

You forgot that he attacked the cops first and the person with the camera started filming after his futile attack. Wasn't he also under the influence?

and what? The cops hacked at him like Mariano Rivera throwing David Ortiz a meatball. There's a difference between 2 whacks and 30 bombs

Did anyone mention that OJ graciously approached the manager and stated he would ask his party to leave, he understood the problem...and they left very quietly? I mean, sure, he hamburgered his wife but at least he's still has some manners.

 

[blueta2]

and what? The cops hacked at him like Mariano Rivera throwing David Ortiz a meatball. There's a difference between 2 whacks and 30 bombs

Did anyone mention that OJ graciously approached the manager and stated he would ask his party to leave, he understood the problem...and they left very quietly? I mean, sure, he hamburgered his wife but at least he's still has some manners.

OJ should have been exterminated a long time ago!

 

[gotmilk]

OJ should have been exterminated a long time ago!

But leave Charles Manson, Son of Sam, or Bea Arthur?


I think we have bigger problems than Norberg

 

[blueta2]

But leave Charles Manson, Son of Sam, or Bea Arthur?


I think we have bigger problems than Norberg

Bea is so sweet! How could you ;-)

This world has many problems........

 

[DannoMight]

But leave Charles Manson, Son of Sam, or Bea Arthur?


I think we have bigger problems than Norberg

Charlie never killed anybody. He just told some people to do it. They didn't have to.

Son of Sam. I thought his dog told him to kill. He was just a dr.doolittle of his time.

 

[jnevin]

OJ should have been exterminated a long time ago!

LOL @ a Canadian screaming for the death penalty.

 

[DannoMight]

You forgot that he attacked the cops first and the person with the camera started filming after his futile attack. Wasn't he also under the influence?

But he didn't deserve a thrashing like he got. And with several officers there they could have apprehended him. I see it on cops all the time where 2-3 officers hold a big guy down.

 

[blueta2]

But he didn't deserve a thrashing like he got. And with several officers there they could have apprehended him. I see it on cops all the time where 2-3 officers hold a big guy down.

Agreed, he deserved it when he broke the law many times before that.
Kidding!
It was sick how the cops treated him, but these cops deal with dirt bags (black or white or green or yellow) on a daily basis and they were fed up.

 

[DannoMight]

Agreed, he deserved it when he broke the law many times before that.
Kidding!
It was sick how the cops treated him, but these cops deal with dirt bags (black or white or green or yellow) on a daily basis and they were fed up.

Well he was a convicted felon on parole for robbing a convience store and brutally assaulting the clerk so maybe it was a little karma catching up to him. But he still got paid almost 4 mil for the police beatin.

 

[blueta2]

LOL @ a Canadian screaming for the death penalty.

you know what, a few yrs ago I was very against the death penalty.
I never believed in an eye for an eye.
But realizing some humans who are very tainted (like pedophiles and the Dalmer's of the world) will and cannot get well so they may as well be gone.
I've become very angry and bitter at injustice the last few yrs of my life
I don't think OJ deserved the death penalty. I think the Brown family should have been able to bust his head!

 

[mountain muscle]

Rodney King is a great example to use. It happened 16 years ago. Set off the worst riot in US history causing over $1 billion in damage, 55 people dead and thousands injured.

The beating didn't knock any sense into the felon parolee either. He was convicted several times afterward as well.

Anyone who champions him is an utter, complete fool.

 

[Phaded]

Rodney King is a great example to use. It happened 16 years ago. Set off the worst riot in US history causing over $1 billion in damage, 55 people dead and thousands injured.

The beating didn't knock any sense into the felon parolee either. He was convicted several times afterward as well.

Anyone who champions him is an utter, complete fool.

what do you expect? him to live a normal life since he's a millionaire ya right.. some people just dont belong in a normal society..

 

[mountain muscle]

what do you expect? him to live a normal life since he's a millionaire ya right.. some people just dont belong in a normal society..

He was a criminal before, now he is a criminal with money and he still can't live right.

The cops didn't beat him hard enough. When people mention him about police brutality I always bring up the riots and they stfu if they have a brain.

 

[Phaded]

He was a criminal before, now he is a criminal with money and he still can't live right.

The cops didn't beat him hard enough. When people mention him about police brutality I always bring up the riots and they stfu if they have a brain.

dwight gooden, daryl strawberry, crack kills.

 

[gjohnson5]

Your statement is horribly ridiculous. The idea that people as a whole complaining about this and that is stereotypical , irresponsible , and just plain false.

I could care less about what you think you've seen. Your statements were completely out of line and the idea that you know what happens in communities that you have not seen or even know exist is just silly.

You never answered dialtone's question about what is the black community

Hate to tell ya, but no it's not a ridiculous statement. It's a very REAL statement!
I'm not going to turn this into a black vs white post.
Honey, I've been on this planet almost 41 yrs, I've seen enough to know what I'm talking about

 

[gjohnson5]

His arrest record is irrelevant. It is no more then an excuse for police brutality

The rule of law applies to all citizens whether seen as troublemakers or not.
http://www.hrw.org/reports98/police/uspo17.htm

All citizens should have equal protection under these laws and they should apply to all citizen no matter what color , gender , religion , sexual preference, or public opinion standards as stated in the 14th Amendment
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Equal_protection

So I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the excuse that his beating was warranted via his arrest record

here ya go, read this

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/lapd/kingarrests.html

I don't care what color this jerk was, he was a menace and a trouble maker

 

[blueta2]

Your statement is horribly ridiculous. The idea that people as a whole complaining about this and that is stereotypical , irresponsible , and just plain false.

I could care less about what you think you've seen. Your statements were completely out of line and the idea that you know what happens in communities that you have not seen or even know exist is just silly.

You never answered dialtone's question about what is the black community

G, you don't know what I've seen. It's not false! Just b/c I'm white doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about.
The black people I know (neighbors, co workers) and my black friends have all cried the same tears. "the white man keeps us down" I mean HELL, rappers sing about it...........geeez, come on!
It reminds me of the situation here in Quebec. The French want to separate from the rest of Canada b/c they want their own state.
Well 50 yrs ago, the french were uneducated and most were poor. No one would give them jobs. Industry in Quebec was all English. The English were given all the best opportunities. The French cried that the English treated them like slaves..........and some were treated as such. The French were farmers and poor.
Now 50 yrs later, the French rule. In this province you cannot get a job if you're not french speaking. Signs are all in French etc......What did the French do, they stopped bitching and got educated. Then built industry. They are not sitting around crying "racism" at every turn.
The question on "what is the black comminuty" is an odd question and is redundant...
have a read
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/wicks3.html

You want to make a difference, then stop being so angry at racism and make a difference.

 

[Bikini Mod]

He was a criminal before, now he is a criminal with money and he still can't live right.

The cops didn't beat him hard enough. When people mention him about police brutality I always bring up the riots and they stfu if they have a brain.

OK, so I suppose I am now clear. Just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss anything.

OJ Simpson is a scumbag to the nth degree who has legal and physical custody of his children. Yes, he was acquitted of the brutal murder of two people (one of whom was the mother of his three children and his ex-wife) but was found GUILTY in a civil trial.

People like Robert Blake, et al didn't do much different than OJ yet for some reason their crimes seem less offensive?

Rodney King was a criminal before he got the beating of a lifetime which spurred INSANE behavior by a community of people who were *acting out against the system that was treating them unfairly* by burning, looting and hurting many member of their very own community. ....and he remained a criminal long after....

WOMEN and CHILDREN have been victimized and treated unfairly since there were enough people to have a majority and a minority community regardless of whom belonged to which group at that particular moment in time.

Now what?

Maybe one person can't change the world... or maybe the world can be changed ONE PERSON AT A TIME.

WHERE DO YOU PERSONALLY FALL IN THAT CONTINUUM?

 

[mountain muscle]

His arrest record is irrelevant. It is no more then an excuse for police brutality

The rule of law applies to all citizens whether seen as troublemakers or not.
http://www.hrw.org/reports98/police/uspo17.htm

All citizens should have equal protection under these laws and they should apply to all citizen no matter what color , gender , religion , sexual preference, or public opinion standards as stated in the 14th Amendment
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Equal_protection

So I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the excuse that his beating was warranted via his arrest record

His beating was excessive, but warranted for fighting with the police. You obey the police and do what your told when they want you to, that rule applies to everyone.

Rioting and killing people over a verdict you disagree is far worse than his beating.

 

[Frisky]

His arrest record is irrelevant. It is no more then an excuse for police brutality

The rule of law applies to all citizens whether seen as troublemakers or not.
http://www.hrw.org/reports98/police/uspo17.htm

All citizens should have equal protection under these laws and they should apply to all citizen no matter what color , gender , religion , sexual preference, or public opinion standards as stated in the 14th Amendment
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Equal_protection

So I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the excuse that his beating was warranted via his arrest record

so... do you think this was police brutality due to his race?

And I am not trying to be a smart ass... I really want to know if you think he was mistreated due to the color of his skin.

 

[blueta2]

?

WOMEN and CHILDREN have been victimized and treated unfairly since there were enough people to have a majority and a minority community regardless of whom belonged to which group at that particular moment in time.

Have been and still are!

 

[Bikini Mod]

Have been and still are!

Yes, but since their lives are less valuable than the lives of men, who gives a fat rat's ass?

 

[blueta2]

Yes, but since their lives are less valuable than the lives of men, who gives a fat rat's ass?

true, we are second rate ;-) That will not last forever. We will take over the world one day. At least there will be less wars!

 

[gjohnson5]

If you've seen it then why can't you tell me what the "black community" is???
I'll tell you why you haven't seen it, because there is no such place where everyone black has the same ideology and scruples. Even if you are referring to a physical community IE a ghetto, you will find that this is a class based physical area , not a race based group of people with a certain set of principals. It may look like an area of similar peoples , but that's just stereotypes.

Look at me and Dialtone for instance. We're both originally from Georgia. DT is originally from the ATL, and from Savannah. He is from more of the classy and upscale part of the state , whereas I'm from the opposite corner of the state which is poorer and much more rural. I grew up in New Orleans, where real ghettos used to exist such as Desire housing project. So you will find that my ideals will be more liberal then his.

As far as the content of rap, post the lyrics on even 1 song where a rapper is complaining that a white man is keeping them down. I've been listening to rap since 78 and since the commercialization of rap, that ain't a general topic of discussion.

What you need to understand is that everything coming from your mind is a stereotype.

As far as Robert A Wicks goes
http://afgen.com/did_you_know.html
# I sometimes wonder why people like Robert A. Wicks, author of the article, Coming Soon: More Black Libertarians, can't complete their work without bashing another Black group in order to get their point across. In the case of Wicks he complains that the Nation of Islam (NOI) (... for example, in the Nation of Islam. Note how they always fawn over their leaders, even to the point of committing obscene blasphemies such as referring to W. Fard Muhammad as Allah in Person and Elijah Muhammad as the Messenger of Allah.) What the hell business is it of his what the members of the NOI believe, who gives him the right to choose another man's God? I feel that if people like Wicks want to write about Blacks in libertarianism or some other white political movement then do it but they accomplish nothing when they bash, by far, the most successful Black oriented and controlled organization in the country, religious or otherwise. Talk about Black dis-unity, look to people like Robert Wicks, a libertarian unknown who is incapable of thinking outside of the European mindset, as one of the ongoing reasons.

LOL , this guys ideals are so fringe and in the minority to most anyone of color, Hell I'm still wondering where you pulled this guys name from? A unix administrator from Atlanta? But this guys ideals are exactly what I'm referring to when I say an idealogical "black community" doesn't exist. I still fail to comprehend how one physically sees someone else's ideals like they are walking around with their political platform tied to their neck

G, you don't know what I've seen. It's not false! Just b/c I'm white doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about.
The black people I know (neighbors, co workers) and my black friends have all cried the same tears. "the white man keeps us down" I mean HELL, rappers sing about it...........geeez, come on!
It reminds me of the situation here in Quebec. The French want to separate from the rest of Canada b/c they want their own state.
Well 50 yrs ago, the french were uneducated and most were poor. No one would give them jobs. Industry in Quebec was all English. The English were given all the best opportunities. The French cried that the English treated them like slaves..........and some were treated as such. The French were farmers and poor.
Now 50 yrs later, the French rule. In this province you cannot get a job if you're not french speaking. Signs are all in French etc......What did the French do, they stopped bitching and got educated. Then built industry. They are not sitting around crying "racism" at every turn.
The question on "what is the black comminuty" is an odd question and is redundant...
have a read
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/wicks3.html

You want to make a difference, then stop being so angry at racism and make a difference.

 

[gjohnson5]

When the incident first happened , I was convinced it was racial. The youtube video of mark Fuhrman that I posted in this thread definitely suggests that his ideology and the race of perpetrators is connected with his "They'll kill someone and then go to kfc" comment.

But now having worked with state gov't, I'm starting to see how local police forces act at times in a vigilante fashion. The groom in queens who rammed the police car because the driver was drunk and then the off duty cops fired all their ammunition at the car killing the groom is more like what I'm referring to.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/26/national/main2208778.shtml

They will make excuses like they were being shot at , but it's clear the man was unarmed. It's just CYA of course.
But that behavior seems to be most glaring when another policeman is killed in action.

so... do you think this was police brutality due to his race?

And I am not trying to be a smart ass... I really want to know if you think he was mistreated due to the color of his skin.

 

[wootoom]

what a joke i cant believe peope are backing this douchebag up, like i said before he should be fuckin dead regardless, u dont fuckin beat the shit out of women unless its bikinimom

 

[Phaded]

When the incident first happened , I was convinced it was racial. The youtube video of mark Fuhrman that I posted in this thread definitely suggests that his ideology and the race of perpetrators is connected with his "They'll kill someone and then go to kfc" comment.

But now having worked with state gov't, I'm starting to see how local police forces act at times in a vigilante fashion. The groom in queens who rammed the police car because the driver was drunk and then the off duty cops fired all their ammunition at the car killing the groom is more like what I'm referring to.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/26/national/main2208778.shtml

They will make excuses like they were being shot at , but it's clear the man was unarmed. It's just CYA of course.
But that behavior seems to be most glaring when another policeman is killed in action.

im sure they got shot at cause they were black and not cause he tried to ram the officers with his car.. this shit happens all the time the only reason its a big deal was cause he was a 'groom' ..

 

[Frisky]

When the incident first happened , I was convinced it was racial. The youtube video of mark Fuhrman that I posted in this thread definitely suggests that his ideology and the race of perpetrators is connected with his "They'll kill someone and then go to kfc" comment.

But now having worked with state gov't, I'm starting to see how local police forces act at times in a vigilante fashion. The groom in queens who rammed the police car because the driver was drunk and then the off duty cops fired all their ammunition at the car killing the groom is more like what I'm referring to.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/26/national/main2208778.shtml

They will make excuses like they were being shot at , but it's clear the man was unarmed. It's just CYA of course.
But that behavior seems to be most glaring when another policeman is killed in action.

so... your personal view of this case and how it went down... do you think it was a racial issue?






I know race as well as sex has a really huge impact on some cases. But its not race alone... how about sex... ?

How about those of us whom are sterotyped due to the fact that we are divorced with two kids... We are judged just like the next. Where is our justice. There is no end to this, I am sure plenty could chime in on how or why they were sterotyped one way or another.

I just am sick of the 'card' that is pulled out when someone fucks up and can't admit to their fault. I don't condone the way most law enforcement takes care of things... but that is the action of an individual. Just this past weekend there was an instance where law enforcement struck a child... guess what, he was a white child... So, how should we classify that?

Every instance should be classified the same as the other. No race, no gender, nothing... What is wrong is wrong despite the color of our skin or our gender... even the amt of 0's in our checkbook. How dare any of us think we are better than the next.

All of this shit is getting old fast... Those whom should be punished for the race crimes are already dead... yet, we are still trying to make up for the wrong doings of people we just so happen to be related to... or have the same skin color as... ?

Ah hell... ya know, my family was stripped of their land long before all of this shit... I think we native american's need to follow in this trend.

 

[Bikini Mod]

what a joke i cant believe peope are backing this douchebag up, like i said before he should be fuckin dead regardless, u dont fuckin beat the shit out of women unless its bikinimom

Hey - EWE TALKIN TA ME?!

*said in best Joisey tone*

 

[gjohnson5]

I'm not particularly sure of what you're trying to say here. In my post I downplayed the issue of race in the incident , but you continued on with this race based monologue as If I said the incident was racially motivated.
That was phaded who said the incident was racially motived not me.


Gosh , atleast read what I say before going on a rant...

so... your personal view of this case and how it went down... do you think it was a racial issue?






I know race as well as sex has a really huge impact on some cases. But its not race alone... how about sex... ?

How about those of us whom are sterotyped due to the fact that we are divorced with two kids... We are judged just like the next. Where is our justice. There is no end to this, I am sure plenty could chime in on how or why they were sterotyped one way or another.

I just am sick of the 'card' that is pulled out when someone fucks up and can't admit to their fault. I don't condone the way most law enforcement takes care of things... but that is the action of an individual. Just this past weekend there was an instance where law enforcement struck a child... guess what, he was a white child... So, how should we classify that?

Every instance should be classified the same as the other. No race, no gender, nothing... What is wrong is wrong despite the color of our skin or our gender... even the amt of 0's in our checkbook. How dare any of us think we are better than the next.

All of this shit is getting old fast... Those whom should be punished for the race crimes are already dead... yet, we are still trying to make up for the wrong doings of people we just so happen to be related to... or have the same skin color as... ?

Ah hell... ya know, my family was stripped of their land long before all of this shit... I think we native american's need to follow in this trend.

 

[puddlemonkey]

u dont fuckin beat the shit out of women unless its bikinimom

LOL

 

[Frisky]

I'm not particularly sure of what you're trying to say here. In my post I downplayed the issue of race in the incident , but you continued on with this race based monologue as If I said the incident was racially motivated.
That was phaded who said the incident was racially motived not me.


Gosh , atleast read what I say before going on a rant...

well... hmm... did you not indicate race as being an issue?

If not then I apoligize. I haven't been able to go thru every single post. I am not picking you... my post was not just twords you and maybe I should have made that clear... it was to any and everyone whom pulls the race card for any reason.

I would love for everyone to accept all as equal... That would be a perfect world. And by equal, I mean all equal... female, male, all races... etc

 

[-SD-]

I would personally like to invite gjohnson and dial tone from the black community into the white community.

 

[Dial_tone]

I would personally like to invite gjohnson and dial tone from the black community into the white community.

Do we get to keep our rhythm and large wangs?

 

[gotmilk]

Do we get to keep our rhythm and large wangs?

Yep, and you can still have all our fat chicks too.

 

[gjohnson5]

LOL!

Some would say I'm already there.
Which is the weird thing about these discussions as I am looking like Louis farrakhan's right hand man

Guess you'd just have to know me in RL

I would personally like to invite gjohnson and dial tone from the black community into the white community.

 

[-SD-]

Do we get to keep our rhythm and large wangs?

Your rhythm is wholly complimentary to our rhythm. Your wangs might be a problem compared to our average-large range wangs. Would definitely be a problem in the asian community.

 

[mountain muscle]

I would personally like to invite gjohnson and dial tone from the black community into the white community.

Please explain what the white community is. You are just thinking in stereotypes now.

 

[-SD-]

Please explain what the white community is. You are just thinking in stereotypes now.

any place where the crime rate is low and the real estate appreciation is high.
oh, and....racist.