rest between sets?

[liftingfreak1983]

I'm doing DC's routine and I get the 12-15 breaths during my working set, I was curious what was better, to rest between sets or do it again while I'm still fatigued?

 

[guldukat]

I'm doing DC's routine and I get the 12-15 breaths during my working set, I was curious what was better, to rest between sets or do it again while I'm still fatigued?

Hiya Freak.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying...when you say "rest between sets," you mean those mini rest-pause "sets," right?

For example, let's say you do this:

Bench--10 reps w/ 6500 lbs.
15 deep breaths
*3 reps w/ 6500
15 breaths
*1 rep w/ 6500, plus a static and slow negative.

Are you asking if you should rest more before and between the *s? (I would say definitely not. That'd defeat the purpose of rest-pausing.)

Or, are you talking about doing your first exercise, then moving without lots of rest to the second? (I would say definitely not here, too. Rest between exercises as much as you need.)

Things can get complicated so fast *groan*

 

[liftingfreak1983]

ya i guess the point of DC's workout is being still fatigued while doing your working set. What if I was lifting low volume at high intensity, then would I take more time between sets?

 

[guldukat]

ya i guess the point of DC's workout is being still fatigued while doing your working set. What if I was lifting low volume at high intensity, then would I take more time between sets?

You'll wanna hit me, but I'm still confused, LOL. Maybe I should just describe whwhat I think and do.

In a very low volume routine like DC, I consider the work set--including rest-pauses, statics, or drop sets--only one set.

For example, in my last workout, I did this. Keep in mind I'm still getting over being sick, explaining the weak weight:

Hammer Incline Press--1,375 for 10, 15 deep breaths, then 3 more.

That's it. Then I did pec stretches with a couple of Buicks before moving on to back. Next week I hope to get back to the stretching with the Hummers.

Seriously though, I see that as "one long set." You could call it two sets, but the rest interval is quite short, and obviously I can't do a third as many reps. I like to think of them as forced reps done without a training partner.

Anyway, after I do the pec stretch, I wait as long as needed to feel good before doing the next exercise. Usually within 5 minutes I'm fresh and ready to start warm-ups for my rows, chins or whatever.

I see no advantage to rushing from incline press to rows, then running from rows to the next thing, and so on...that'd get you out of breath, but not much else to my knowledge.

The same holds true for any low volume, high-intensity routine. If you're rest-pausing, doing drop sets or whatever, lots of rest between those and the initial "set" of reps to failure defeats the purpose of those things.

On the other hand, if you're trying to do two sets (or more) of ONE exercise at a certain level--say, you want to do 2 sets of 8 on the bench with more than XXX lbs.--then yes, it would benefit you to rest between those sets. I wouldn't wait around for 10 minutes, but 3-5 is certainly fine in my book.

I hope that helps.

 

[WalkingBeast]

Re: Re: rest between sets?

Hiya Freak.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying...when you say "rest between sets," you mean those mini rest-pause "sets," right?

For example, let's say you do this:

Bench--10 reps w/ 6500 lbs.
15 deep breaths
*3 reps w/ 6500
15 breaths
*1 rep w/ 6500, plus a static and slow negative.

Are you asking if you should rest more before and between the *s? (I would say definitely not. That'd defeat the purpose of rest-pausing.)

Or, are you talking about doing your first exercise, then moving without lots of rest to the second? (I would say definitely not here, too. Rest between exercises as much as you need.)

Things can get complicated so fast *groan*

After a rep with 6500lbs, get this guy a pine box and some artificial limbs to "pretty him up" and throw him in the ocean...See if he can swim!

 

[WalkingBeast]

You'll wanna hit me, but I'm still confused, LOL. Maybe I should just describe whwhat I think and do.

In a very low volume routine like DC, I consider the work set--including rest-pauses, statics, or drop sets--only one set.

For example, in my last workout, I did this. Keep in mind I'm still getting over being sick, explaining the weak weight:

Hammer Incline Press--1,375 for 10, 15 deep breaths, then 3 more.

That's it. Then I did pec stretches with a couple of Buicks before moving on to back. Next week I hope to get back to the stretching with the Hummers.

Seriously though, I see that as "one long set." You could call it two sets, but the rest interval is quite short, and obviously I can't do a third as many reps. I like to think of them as forced reps done without a training partner.

Anyway, after I do the pec stretch, I wait as long as needed to feel good before doing the next exercise. Usually within 5 minutes I'm fresh and ready to start warm-ups for my rows, chins or whatever.

I see no advantage to rushing from incline press to rows, then running from rows to the next thing, and so on...that'd get you out of breath, but not much else to my knowledge.

The same holds true for any low volume, high-intensity routine. If you're rest-pausing, doing drop sets or whatever, lots of rest between those and the initial "set" of reps to failure defeats the purpose of those things.

On the other hand, if you're trying to do two sets (or more) of ONE exercise at a certain level--say, you want to do 2 sets of 8 on the bench with more than XXX lbs.--then yes, it would benefit you to rest between those sets. I wouldn't wait around for 10 minutes, but 3-5 is certainly fine in my book.

I hope that helps.

1375? Is it even possible to get a pump with that weight?

 

[Scotsman]

ya i guess the point of DC's workout is being still fatigued while doing your working set. What if I was lifting low volume at high intensity, then would I take more time between sets?

I like to take long rests during low volume phases and shorter when the vol is up.

Where are you in Colorado?

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[guldukat]

1375? Is it even possible to get a pump with that weight?

Oh, sure. Working stuff with high reps always yields a great pump for me

I was of course pulling those nos. out of my ass. I've seen some machines with totally ridiculous leverage advantages, but I've yet to find any upper body machine that could even FIT that much

 

[liftingfreak1983]

I like to take long rests during low volume phases and shorter when the vol is up.

Where are you in Colorado?

Cheers,
Scotsman

Fort Collins