Repubs and warmongers, read and learn

[chesty]

la weekly, la times I dont' believe squat coming out of CA

 

[gymnpoppa]

Well, they attacked us, and if it is a by-product that we get the oil. I am all for it.

By-product? Hardly............

 

[aurelius]

What is worse is that a lot of the privileged in America are really NOT protected. Many of these people live on credit. The minute they lose their job or suffer a tragedy, they are poor just like the rest. Since none of us save money, most of us have no more than $10K in the bank. That doesn't go very far if you are laid off from work more than six months, which is what is happening to thousands.

Bingo!!!

Except you´re way off regarding savings. According to what I read in the Economist, the US worker has by far the lowest average savings of any post industrial country worker at around 1200 dollars.

 

[chesty]

Yeah hardly! I still can't believe some foster the idea that we would murder our own just to get better oil rights.

As Metallica wrote: "Kill 'em all" and let the athiests sort them out.

 

[spongebob]

HANSNZ: Incorrect. The lendlease system did indeed supply the British with much material, as did other allies such as NZ and Australia, for most of the war. This materiel was not decisive at the time of the Battle of Britain when the UK fought back Germany ALONE. It wasn't until after this that this war material started to have an effect. The BRITISH prevented their own defeat, later american assistance kept a bankrupted UK in the war, it did not save them initially - the British saved themselves.

first, i never said it was decisive, but to say it didnt contribute is wrong. non-military supplies was already being sold to the allies under the 1937 neutrality act. weapons were allowed in nov 1939 under a modification of the law. and as i mentioned the US was the MAIN supplier of oil to the allies(tanks and aircraft fuel). the land lease act was passed in march of 41. at this point great britian had already been fighting for 18 months and was broke. are you telling me that at this point the british could have continued to fight the germans with success? we both agree that the major turning point was stalingrad in late 42 early 43. these american contributions did nonthing to help up until this point???

HANSNZ: Agreed, invading North America by sea would have been difficult strategically. But to say that if the Germans had attempted that the preparations the Roosevelt administration had made at that point would have been sufficient is stretching it a bit.

it would have been unsuccessful.


The British and French were making plans much earlier and look how much trouble they found themselves in nonetheless. In any case Russia was Germany's prefered target, not the US. But to say that a German defeat of Britain and Russia wouldn't have been a direct threat to the US is laughable. These two countries were all that stood between Germany and total world domination. In the longer-term it seems unlikely that the USA would have been able to defeat a victorious Germany and marauding Japan alone.

i never said it would not been a direct threat. that is the reasoning roosevelt used to convince the americans to enter the war. we could have just as easily dropped h-bombs on germany and who ever else.

HANSNZ: Really? You've done nothing more than me to prove your points. So calling arrogant Americans arrogant makes me arrogant? Interesting philosophy....

i wasnt referring to you calling americans arrogant as your arrogance. you attempted to discredit americas contributions and even went on to say that germany could have easily defeated the americans. thats arrogance to me. basically your emotions took over at that point in your post.

 

[spongebob]

I don't want to berate you further for your opinions or engage in any more American bashing. Generally speaking I get on very well with Americans. The USA has many admirable characteristics, but when you meet someone who walks around saying "i'm the best, i'm the greatest, everyone wants to be me, everyone wants me" then you tend to want to give them a reality check.

to say you are going to put someone in "reality check" when actually you just disagree with them is somewhat arrogant IMO.

 

[spongebob]

My position taken almost a year ago, will become the accepted position, in time.

It takes time for people to look at themselves and see their faults.

Americans are no different.

I am being proven right more and more as the months go by.

While that is great for my ego, it isn't really the point though.

It would be nice if we as a superpower could set an example rather than becoming like the enemy.

please tell me your joking. what exactly is proving you right? an article? why dont you put together a real post with actual subject material covering in detail why we invaded afganistan and what companies are involved in the pipeline consortium and explain your theory just a little.

 

[huntmaster]

I hope we get smashed, not because I hate my country and what it stands for, but because we have the potential for greatness and the middle class is under the illusion that they are immune, while slowly but surely we are being wiped out.

We have to take a stand together.

You hope we get wiped out b/c the conservatives are in the White House.

that is where it starts and that is where it ends--lets be honest here. Your just pissed that the repubs got the presidency.

 

[talonracer]

Too bad Hanz's and Strongchick's families weren't killed in the Sept 11th attack......maybe then they wouldn't be cheering it on as the US "getting what it deserved". Again just look at the staements these fools make, they are haters of freedom and the USA just like the Taliban.

 

[Burning_Inside]

but strongchick, you dont understand I mean IT'S OK FOR US TO BE HYPOCRITICAL, I MEAN WE'RE THE USA! WHAT WE DO IS FINE! FUCK EVERYONE ELSE! WOOHOOO!