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youngguns

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What do you guys think about this. After you have been cheated on or w/e, let's say you were with someone for 6 months and they cheated on you, how long does it take you to fully recover? I once heard however long you were in the relationship for, is how long it takes to recover, I happen to agree.
 
youngguns said:
What do you guys think about this. After you have been cheated on or w/e, let's say you were with someone for 6 months and they cheated on you, how long does it take you to fully recover? I once heard however long you were in the relationship for, is how long it takes to recover, I happen to agree.
lol u got cheated on???

your fucking 19 and ur taking that shit?

the only way id ever "put up" with being cheated on is if i stood to lose alot out of a devorce (kids, house, etc)
 
SublimeZM said:
lol u got cheated on???

your fucking 19 and ur taking that shit?

the only way id ever "put up" with being cheated on is if i stood to lose alot out of a devorce (kids, house, etc)
no no, I have been, but I did as well, so it was mutual retardedness.
 
youngguns said:
Ever hear, "high school sweethearts"
or "we met in college"
Seem to be the ones staying together forever.

lol
i dont know any high school sweethearts from my school within 3 years of me
college is another thing - more than likely their junior-senior year or it could even mean graduate school
 
NickyE3 said:
lol
i dont know any high school sweethearts from my school within 3 years of me
college is another thing - more than likely their junior-senior year or it could even mean graduate school
ok well I want to spend my life with my girl, so, there.
 
youngguns said:
Ever hear, "high school sweethearts"
or "we met in college"
Seem to be the ones staying together forever.

ya those r usually the couples I see in marriage counseling
 
I'd never forgive someone if they cheated on me, even one time. I made that mistake in the past, and never would again. Plus, anytime an argument happens, it's bound to be brought up over and over again.

Drop her and move on. At 19, you don't have a clue who you want to spend the rest of your life with. You'll laugh at yourself for thinking that way about her in a couple years from now.
 
youngguns said:
What do you guys think about this. After you have been cheated on or w/e, let's say you were with someone for 6 months and they cheated on you, how long does it take you to fully recover? I once heard however long you were in the relationship for, is how long it takes to recover, I happen to agree.


There is no excuse for cheating. One strike and your gettin DA BOOT. It shows a complete lack of discipline, & lack of respect for you. If you dont want to commit to one person by all means dont, but dont expect you can have your cake and eat it too.
 
the_clockwork said:
ya those r usually the couples I see in marriage counseling

Lmao.

On another note - cheating has got to be the most cowardly thing a person can do. If you want to go around then just don't date or break up instead of doing it behind another persons back. Not a difficult concept.
 
youngguns said:
What do you guys think about this. After you have been cheated on or w/e, let's say you were with someone for 6 months and they cheated on you, how long does it take you to fully recover? I once heard however long you were in the relationship for, is how long it takes to recover, I happen to agree.

Most people don't recover enough to get back with that same person. I don't think you ever fully recover from it. You just think less and less about it untill one day its out of your mind for long periods of time. The less you see the person who cheated on you the better.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
Most people don't recover enough to get back with that same person. I don't think you ever fully recover from it. You just think less and less about it untill one day its out of your mind for long periods of time. The less you see the person who cheated on you the better.

on point
 
Pikaberdot said:
I'd never forgive someone if they cheated on me, even one time. I made that mistake in the past, and never would again. Plus, anytime an argument happens, it's bound to be brought up over and over again.

Drop her and move on. At 19, you don't have a clue who you want to spend the rest of your life with. You'll laugh at yourself for thinking that way about her in a couple years from now.


exactly,when I was 19 i was exactly that way,I love her,gonna marry her blah blah blah,now I look at myself and think of what a joke it all was and all the prime tail i passed up because i had a girl.fucking dumb I was
 
Like Golden Delicious says: Once I kick someone out of my life, they are kicked the fug out forever.

I don't cheat on peeps, I expect the same courtesy in return.
 
SublimeZM said:
lol u got cheated on???

your fucking 19 and ur taking that shit?

the only way id ever "put up" with being cheated on is if i stood to lose alot out of a devorce (kids, house, etc)


well i'd agree, having just found myself in that position. married and been together for 8 years. cheating bitch! trobule is i've got alot invested, time, money, my last 8 years etc. alot to lose
 
Turd Ferguson said:
Most people don't recover enough to get back with that same person. I don't think you ever fully recover from it. You just think less and less about it untill one day its out of your mind for long periods of time. The less you see the person who cheated on you the better.


true, i don't think you ever fully recover, you'll always carry that with you for the rest of you life. it will mark you forever, if you want to put it that way.

once you have been cheated on it's with you everyday forever.
 
Pikaberdot said:
I'd never forgive someone if they cheated on me, even one time. I made that mistake in the past, and never would again. Plus, anytime an argument happens, it's bound to be brought up over and over again.

Drop her and move on. At 19, you don't have a clue who you want to spend the rest of your life with. You'll laugh at yourself for thinking that way about her in a couple years from now.
I agree, we cheated on each other a long long time ago, and it does come up sometimes.
 
youngguns said:
I agree, we cheated on each other a long long time ago, and it does come up sometimes.

u cheated on each other a long time ago...
u have been going out for 6 months...
u r a freshman in colllege...

ummmmmmmmmmm
 
CASS said:
well i'd agree, having just found myself in that position. married and been together for 8 years. cheating bitch! trobule is i've got alot invested, time, money, my last 8 years etc. alot to lose
yeah but in followup to what i said, she wouldnt be my wife anymore, just my legal partner, id never love someone who fucked me over that bad
 
I'm surprised this hasn't come up, even though it's redundant, as the obligatory EF response. Dude, she's cheating on you.
 
NickyE3 said:
the US's divorce rate is almost 60%

Sad however I doubt it's a whole lot different than the past. The reason we wouldn't know it was near 50-60% is because it wasn't reported since divorce was highly stigmatized. So numbers don't necessarily mean that's it's increasing.. back then people were shunned for getting divorced.. eek - imagine...
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
Sad however I doubt it's a whole lot different than the past. The reason we wouldn't know it was near 50-60% is because it wasn't reported since divorce was highly stigmatized. So numbers don't necessarily mean that's it's increasing.. back then people were shunned for getting divorced.. eek - imagine...

i would disagree
 
getting over being cheated on takes awhile.......it also depends on the seriousness of the relationship.

if it's a casual relationship, and you're both fucking around..then it's not going to sting that much.

i personally, have never cheated on any girl, but i have been cheated on...and the more serious the relationship and the more they went out of their way to hide it, the harder it was to overcome.

it dramatically affects the way you view the opposite sex and the trust issues tend to linger.

what i noticed about women is they tend to jump to another person much easier (often as a coping mechanism)...because they can.

men on the other hand recover much slower from deceit and betrayal...
 
Yeah I can imagine that cheating is a tough thing to handle. My first b/f was at age 20 (2 years ago) and I am still dating Peter and I would never cheat on him...ever. IMO, while the cheating has to do with the issues the person cheating has, I think if you are truly in love, it's not even a though to do something like that. Cheating is for little boys/girls...
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
Yeah I can imagine that cheating is a tough thing to handle. My first b/f was at age 20 (2 years ago) and I am still dating Peter and I would never cheat on him...ever. IMO, while the cheating has to do with the issues the person cheating has, I think if you are truly in love, it's not even a though to do something like that. Cheating is for little boys/girls...
Agree x100, fuck I love you. But my girlfriend a lot more.
 
youngguns said:
Agree x100, fuck I love you. But my girlfriend a lot more.

LOL. Good - I'm glad you love her a lot more. Hehe. But really, I do make a point about this whole cheating thing.. it's so prevalent nowadays and I guess I just don't get it...
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
LOL. Good - I'm glad you love her a lot more. Hehe. But really, I do make a point about this whole cheating thing.. it's so prevalent nowadays and I guess I just don't get it...
There hasn't been one thing you have said I've disagreed with. Please say goodnight when you go to bed, when are you?
 
Shortly. My bedtime (no joke because of my early classes) is no later than 10:30pm. Usually 10pm. Although tomorrow I have no classes because we are in finals but still, I wake up early naturally so... early bird. Blah.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
Shortly. My bedtime (no joke because of my early classes) is no later than 10:30pm. Usually 10pm. Although tomorrow I have no classes because we are in finals but still, I wake up early naturally so... early bird. Blah.
Exactly like my girlfriend. Wakes up at 8 goes to bed by 11. Me, wake up at 11, go to bed at 1-2... we NEVER get a movie fully watched.
 
YG,
Do you have any good advice for wooing a woman into a healthy long term relationship? What are your secrets to making a long term healthy relationship?
 
youngguns said:
Exactly like my girlfriend. Wakes up at 8 goes to bed by 11. Me, wake up at 11, go to bed at 1-2... we NEVER get a movie fully watched.

Same with Peter and I. If we do movies they are usually on the weekend. We watched the Departed on Friday night and that movie was WAY too long for me. I was near asleep by the end (11:30pm). For some reason I just can't stay up too late unless I have to.
 
JavaGuru said:
YG,
Do you have any good advice for wooing a woman into a healthy long term relationship? What are your secrets to making a long term healthy relationship?
Well either she wants to or she doesn't, you shouldn't have to woo her. The main thing in keeping a strong relationship is to constantly talk and make plans about the future.
 
youngguns said:
Well either she wants to or she doesn't, you shouldn't have to woo her. The main thing in keeping a strong relationship is to constantly talk and make plans about the future.

Wouldn't you say communication/trust is key, too? I find these two factors totally NECESSARY. And I agree- you can't "woo," your partner in so to speak.. if that's the case it should have been over already.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
Same with Peter and I. If we do movies they are usually on the weekend. We watched the Departed on Friday night and that movie was WAY too long for me. I was near asleep by the end (11:30pm). For some reason I just can't stay up too late unless I have to.
I'd rather be on the early schedule, so hard with my lifting though. 10 hours of sleep a day AT LEAST.
 
Damn 10 hrs? That's a lot. Yeah I like being on the early schedule because you have the entire day ahead of you. I honestly don't think I've ever slept past 11am. Maybe once.
 
youngguns said:
Well either she wants to or she doesn't, you shouldn't have to woo her. The main thing in keeping a strong relationship is to constantly talk and make plans about the future.
What if your plans don't work out. For example, she graduates and gets a dream job in LA and you get a dream job in NY?
 
youngguns said:
So be it, long distance can work.

And I'm sure there's more than ONE dream job. L.A. and N.Y. are both large cities completely capable of producing many exciting job opportunities. I would try my best to either find one where his is at or he find one where mine is it (I'm saying if I was put in this scenario).
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
And I'm sure there's more than ONE dream job. L.A. and N.Y. are both large cities completely capable of producing many exciting job opportunities. I would try my best to either find one where his is at or he find one where mine is it (I'm saying if I was put in this scenario).
:qt:
 
calveless wonder said:
getting over being cheated on takes awhile.......it also depends on the seriousness of the relationship.

if it's a casual relationship, and you're both fucking around..then it's not going to sting that much.

i personally, have never cheated on any girl, but i have been cheated on...and the more serious the relationship and the more they went out of their way to hide it, the harder it was to overcome.

it dramatically affects the way you view the opposite sex and the trust issues tend to linger.

what i noticed about women is they tend to jump to another person much easier (often as a coping mechanism)...because they can.

men on the other hand recover much slower from deceit and betrayal...


i agree 100%, women do tend to jump sometimes where as men suffer for longer, lets face it if a attractive beautiful women amkes clear she is interested, not many men would say no, whereas the its not the same for men, we have to work much hard and chase after them, so to speak.
 
SublimeZM said:
yeah but in followup to what i said, she wouldnt be my wife anymore, just my legal partner, id never love someone who fucked me over that bad


im beginning to see and feel that more and more, trouble is when you have been with someone for so long, your married, invested so much time, money and love. and both in your 30's it's difficult.

your at a certain place and time in your life when u want certain things, and time is beginning to slowly slip away, to start over and get to that stage again, is a thought i dont even want to think about, plus another 8-10 years with someone else, obviously allowing for time to meet that perosn id be mid 40's maybe older, certain doors etc have or are closing. plus the money side with a divorce etc, i have alot more to lose than she does, basicly my whole financual future etc.
 
beginning to see and feel that more and more, trouble is when you have been with someone for so long, your married, invested so much time, money and love. and both in your 30's it's difficult.

your at a certain place and time in your life when u want certain things, and time is beginning to slowly slip away, to start over and get to that stage again, is a thought i dont even want to think about, plus another 8-10 years with someone else, obviously allowing for time to meet that perosn id be mid 40's maybe older, certain doors etc have or are closing. plus the money side with a divorce etc, i have alot more to lose than she does, basicly my whole financual future etc.

I hear about the whole age thing. But you will probably have a very poor marriage, which then she might end up cheating on you again since you dont have a good relationship. ITs not too late. You can still meet someone in your late 30's. Again I do understand how difficult that choice is though.




Also I just love reading these posts because you always hear about getting cheated on and how terrible that is, but you never hear anyone admitting to it. Just makes me wonder.......
 
seaking420 said:
I hear about the whole age thing. But you will probably have a very poor marriage, which then she might end up cheating on you again since you dont have a good relationship. ITs not too late. You can still meet someone in your late 30's. Again I do understand how difficult that choice is though.




Also I just love reading these posts because you always hear about getting cheated on and how terrible that is, but you never hear anyone admitting to it. Just makes me wonder.......

If I have cheated before I would admit it but I have never done so.. Youngguns admitted that he did in the past, though - so there's one person who admitted it on here. LOL.
 
If I have cheated before I would admit it but I have never done so.. Youngguns admitted that he did in the past, though - so there's one person who admitted it on here. LOL.

True YG did admit it. I always read "wife/gf/husband/bf" cheated on me stories but you hardly ever hear about I cheated on my "wife/gf/husband/bf" I think I only remember of 2 others on this board that admitted to it out of many others that have been cheated on.
 
seaking420 said:
True YG did admit it. I always read "wife/gf/husband/bf" cheated on me stories but you hardly ever hear about I cheated on my "wife/gf/husband/bf" I think I only remember of 2 others on this board that admitted to it out of many others that have been cheated on.

Well, it's understandable. Cheating is quite embarassing and I am sure that anyone who has done it has felt shameful afterwards. It's not my cup of tea. If you don't to be with that person - just tell them, and THEN go sleep around with another person. LOL.
 
Ahhhhhhhhh to be young again.

Give yourselves bout 10 years, couple of kids, get the life sucked out of you, get crushed into the ground, then go ahead begin all over again with nothing....

Cheating is no big deal. I've been cheated on by two men that I loved very much. And? So.... you get over it.

I have NEVER cheated on any man that I was committed to and I don't intend to start now as I near 40. I just don't feel the need. I truly believe that you are either wired to be faithfull or not. Me, I am wired to be faithfull but there must be a SPOKEN CLEAR COMMITMENT FROM BOTH ENDS FIRST.

Now getting beaten to the ground both mentally and physically by your life partner, someone who is supposed to love you more than anyone else on earth - THAT is difficult to get over.

But you do.

You suck it up, brush yourself off and see that the sun will rise again, with you or without you.

Personally, I want to be there to see it again.
 
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BIKINIMOM said:
Ahhhhhhhhh to be young again.

Give yourselves bout 10 years, couple of kids, get the life sucked out of you, get crushed into the ground, then go ahead begin all over again with nothing....

Cheating is no big deal. I've been cheated on by two men that I loved very much. And? So.... you get over it.

I have NEVER cheated on any man that I was committed to and I don't intend to start now as I near 40. I just don't feel the need. I truly believe that you are either wired to be faithfull or not. Me, I am wired to be faithfull but there must be a SPOKEN CLEAR COMMITMENT FROM BOTH ENDS FIRST.

Now getting beaten to the ground both mentally and physically by your life partner, someone who is supposed to love you more than anyone else on earth - THAT is difficult to get over.

But you do.

You suck it up, brush yourself off and see that the sun will rise again, with you or without you.

Personally, I want to be there to see it again.

I agree with many of your points except the one where you think people are wired one way or the other... I don't think this is true just based on experience and people I Have known.. many cheat because of something that is wrong with their personal life (themselves).. they are not happy with who they are, the situation, etc - some learn to handle it in a different many while others don't.. just my opinion from what I've seen and heard... :)
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I agree with many of your points except the one where you think people are wired one way or the other... I don't think this is true just based on experience and people I Have known.. many cheat because of something that is wrong with their personal life (themselves).. they are not happy with who they are, the situation, etc - some learn to handle it in a different many while others don't.. just my opinion from what I've seen and heard... :)

I do agree as often "It is the opportunity that makes the thief" however, either you have it in you to cheat - or not.

You hear guys say it all the time, "If I had the perfect op, travel for business, hotel bar, yea I'd hit it." and often times both men and women do. With the way technology has allowed for a global workplace (meaning you can live anywhere and work anywhere else), cell phones, internet - cheating is now so easy that it is requires little effort and very little risk.

The reason that I have never cheated and never would is not because of the rammifications were I caught, those are secondary. But because I would not be able to sleep with myself and would want to wake with myself even less. Self-respect above all.... hence my theory about wiring.

But I am not judgmental. I am fraught with frailties and qualities that are less than stellar and I am well aware how life has a way of handing us lessons that we would have never seen coming when we were wearing much younger skin.

So to that end I say that while cheating is not something that I condone, I also do not think it is so severe that it should be one's undoing.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I do agree as often "It is the opportunity that makes the thief" however, either you have it in you to cheat - or not.

You hear guys say it all the time, "If I had the perfect op, travel for business, hotel bar, yea I'd hit it." and often times both men and women do. With the way technology has allowed for a global workplace (meaning you can live anywhere and work anywhere else), cell phones, internet - cheating is now so easy that it is requires little effort and very little risk.

The reason that I have never cheated and never would is not because of the rammifications were I caught, those are secondary. But because I would not be able to sleep with myself and would want to wake with myself even less. Self-respect above all.... hence my theory about wiring.

But I am not judgmental. I am fraught with frailties and qualities that are less than stellar and I am well aware how life has a way of handing us lessons that we would have never seen coming when we were wearing much younger skin.

So to that end I say that while cheating is not something that I condone, I also do not think it is so severe that it should be one's undoing.

I agree. Cheating nowadays is so much easier than every before. I would never cheat because I am in dead love with the person I am dating so even thinking about it (up until now) has never even been a thought in my head, you know? I don't want to be with anyone else and I am not drawn to anyone else nearly as strong as I am drawn to Peter. So therefore, I just have no desire to cheat whatsoever. I think if you want to cheat, you shouldn't be in a relationship - you should be out having your fun. You can have your cake and eat it too (by not being a relationship) because you can do as you please (sleep/mess around with whomever you want), AND not hurt another person you care about.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I agree. Cheating nowadays is so much easier than every before. I would never cheat because I am in dead love with the person I am dating so even thinking about it (up until now) has never even been a thought in my head, you know? I don't want to be with anyone else and I am not drawn to anyone else nearly as strong as I am drawn to Peter. So therefore, I just have no desire to cheat whatsoever. I think if you want to cheat, you shouldn't be in a relationship - you should be out having your fun. You can have your cake and eat it too (by not being a relationship) because you can do as you please (sleep/mess around with whomever you want), AND not hurt another person you care about.


I think that too many people are flippant about whom they choose to spend their time with and attention on. I am frankly still mortified from the one time I watched that crappy "Bachelorette" show or whatever it was when that broad was sucking face with everyone of those dudes. I was like, "Icky". How on earth can you find THAT MANY people attractive enough to want to kiss them in such a short period of time. Certainly she was not cheating but great balls of fire... Were her kisses so common that she would just hand them out to every guy she talked to as if it were a business card?!

Ah well..... To each his own.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I think that too many people are flippant about whom they choose to spend their time with and attention on. I am frankly still mortified from the one time I watched that crappy "Bachelorette" show or whatever it was when that broad was sucking face with everyone of those dudes. I was like, "Icky". How on earth can you find THAT MANY people attractive enough to want to kiss them in such a short period of time. Certainly she was not cheating but great balls of fire... Were her kisses so common that she would just hand them out to every guy she talked to as if it were a business card?!

Ah well..... To each his own.

The reason that girl was doing that was for the attention. It had nothing to do with who she thought was attractive. Most of those girls on those shows anyhow, are in desperate need of attention - that's why they do it. It has nothing to do with who they "like." IMO, anyone who is in a relationship who goes on those types of reality shows are not in a SERIOUS relationship because they know what shit happens on those programs. The minute you sign one of those deals to do a reality TV show - you just threw your relationship down the drain... notice how no one EVER ends up staying together afterwards?
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
The reason that girl was doing that was for the attention. It had nothing to do with who she thought was attractive. Most of those girls on those shows anyhow, are in desperate need of attention - that's why they do it. It has nothing to do with who they "like." IMO, anyone who is in a relationship who goes on those types of reality shows are not in a SERIOUS relationship because they know what shit happens on those programs. The minute you sign one of those deals to do a reality TV show - you just threw your relationship down the drain... notice how no one EVER ends up staying together afterwards?

I thought it was HYSTERICAL how she picked "Mr Gorgeous" over the nerdie guy who would have licked her poopie behind only to be dumped by the hunk because.... DUN DUN DUN.... she revealed to him her BBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIGGGGG SECRET: That she dated Fabio.

WTF?

That was THE ONLY reality TV Show of the type that I watched. I think my IQ actually went down like 10 points. LOL
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I thought it was HYSTERICAL how she picked "Mr Gorgeous" over the nerdie guy who would have licked her poopie behind only to be dumped by the hunk because.... DUN DUN DUN.... she revealed to him her BBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIGGGGG SECRET: That she dated Fabio.

WTF?

That was THE ONLY reality TV Show of the type that I watched. I think my IQ actually went down like 10 points. LOL

LMAO! I try not to watch reality TV shows but it's all that's on nowadays and they actually are entertaining. Haha sometimes I can't resist... but yeah - my IQ probably went down after watching that "I Love New York," show. Oh wow.
 
SublimeZM said:
i wonder if he knew you wernt commited to him??

....well either way, i guess he found out after you cheated on him :rolleyes:

Ummm this is funny how?

How can you cheat on someone that you have not committed to?
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Fuck!

That is twice in one day that you busted me! :worried:

Aren't you supposed to be working or something?! :dodgy:
HR is making me get the thick shake and I have cars out to the Piggly Wiggly, ya think I ain't workin?
Damn :bikinimom: mean woman!
:santa2:
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
HR is making me get the thick shake and I have cars out to the Piggly Wiggly, ya think I ain't workin?
Damn :bikinimom: mean woman!
:santa2:

Hey.... I never claimed to be Ms Nice! Betchyour sorry now that you didn't listen to all the bors on EF who tried to warn you about me!!!

Muwahahahahaaaa

Now your ass is mine Mine MINE MINE ALL MINE!!!
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Hey.... I never claimed to be Ms Nice! Betchyour sorry now that you didn't listen to all the bors on EF who tried to warn you about me!!!

Muwahahahahaaaa

Now your ass is mine Mine MINE MINE ALL MINE!!!
Damn I love a gold digger with a fine ass who tells me about Steak & BJ day!!!!!

I got plenty of test drives before we tied the knot....

:santa2:
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Ummm this is funny how?

How can you cheat on someone that you have not committed to?
then why didnt you just simply say youv never cheated on someone?

instead of always saying "cheated that im committed to"
 
SublimeZM said:
then why didnt you just simply say youv never cheated on someone?

instead of always saying "cheated that im committed to"

So now there is a problem with me being specific?

See I think that miscommunication is a major problem in the interactions between men and women and why I try to mean what I say and say what I mean.

I'll give you an example:

Chick goes out with a guy who tells her that he really REALLY likes her a lot. So she thinks that they are committed then goes apeshit when the guy won't return her calls after he boinks her and bails.

another example:

Guy goes ballistic that the woman he bought dinner for is going out with someone who is NOT HIM because she told him at the end of their date, "I had a really good time tonight. Sure, I will see you again."

I don't leave anything to guess. Unless a man and I have had a definite verbal exchange where I say to him, "I want to date you exclusively." and he hears that and agrees, "I want to date you exclusively." THERE IS NO COMMITMENT.

Is that clear enough? :)

I have never ever ever cheated on anyone. I just never felt the need.

Did I boink other doods after I kicked my scumbag exhusband to the curb for beating me to the ground?

HELL THE FUCK YES.

Sonofabitch tortured us for nearly 3 years till he would give me the divorce. I was still legally married in that 3 years so does that mean that I cheated?

Matters to me not as I told my ex SPECIFICALLY, "YOU AND I ARE DONE. YOU BROKE THE MARITAL COVENANT LAST NIGHT WHEN YOU BEAT ME UP. THERE IS NEVER A HOPE FOR A RECONCILIATION. YOU GO YOUR WAY AND I GO MINE."

Capish?
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Damn I love a gold digger with a fine ass who tells me about Steak & BJ day!!!!!

I got plenty of test drives before we tied the knot....

:santa2:

The hell you say?

You know that I had you at, "Hello." Was it the dress, my legs, my boobs or my smile? :qt:
 
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