Recovery after 12+ months on?

[Nighthawkk]

Just curious to know if anyone else has been on for over a year and decided to come off. I'm nearing about 7 months now and will probably continue for another 5, but I do eventually want to come off for a while- this has been my longest cycle thus far. Still in my mid 20's so I'm not looking for a premature HRT plan. Can anyone else share some PCT experiences for their year-long+ cycles? Last recovery went well, but some insight this time around would be much appreciated.

 

[solidspine]

I have done cycles that long,

Started with good formal cycles and ended up doing a lot test, Fina, primo, and what ever I could grab, but basically after 4-5 months of formal cycles, I was just on test.


At the end I did another formal cycle with deca.


For PCT it was a challenge to eliminate both the deca dick I had developed and bringing my nuts back in to shape. I was worried, would be okay now, but the first time it happened I thought I did something permanently


PCT & Solution


Clomid and I hate Clomid, it makes me crazy
Nolvadex
HCG, for probably 5 weeks.

So the total PCT was at least 10 weeks,

Clomid and then HCG, then finally recovery, Nolvadex EOD the whole time.

 

[Nighthawkk]

I have done cycles that long,

PCT & Solution


Clomid and I hate Clomid, it makes me crazy
Nolvadex
HCG, for probably 5 weeks.

So the total PCT was at least 10 weeks,

Clomid and then HCG, then finally recovery, Nolvadex EOD the whole time.

That's about what I did last time, worked like a charm actually. I have 10,000iu HCG and will get nolv and clomid to go along with it. What HCG dosing did you use? After my 8 months on I did 1500iu E4D for about 4 or 5 shots and then did like 6 weeks of 40mg nolvadex/50mg clomid. Test was actually back in normal range by the end of it all but cortisol was very high. I was just more worried this time around because this cycle is ending up much longer, although through most of it I've only done 500mg test with tren, dbol, and deca ran at various times.

 

[odoyal rulez]

Wow, a whole year. Thats wicked man.

 

[Nighthawkk]

bump

 

[monopoly19]

I'll bump this up for you too. Sorry I don't have a better answer, but I know some others on here do.

What were starting stats, and where you at now? Still gaining?

Monopoly

 

[drrman]

well bro, im about 4 weeks out from my last injection after being on for about 13 months. Pumps in the gym suck comparatively, lost a bit of size, but nothing horrible. I actually feel pretty damn good overall. of course i don't feel nearly as big but it not nearly as bad as what i had thought. I have even come off the HGH, only taking clomid, nolvadex, and aromasin.

 

[Bozwell]

well bro, im about 4 weeks out from my last injection after being on for about 13 months. Pumps in the gym suck comparatively, lost a bit of size, but nothing horrible. I actually feel pretty damn good overall. of course i don't feel nearly as big but it not nearly as bad as what i had thought. I have even come off the HGH, only taking clomid, nolvadex, and aromasin.

No hcg?

 

[muscleup]

People do it all the dame time, they just dont tell anyone....I may be on for a few years this time.

Your body will recover its just a time factor.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Wouldn't it make sense to start tapering down the dosages at some point to ease into PCT ... instead of dropping off cold turkey so to speak?

I'm sure people have different "philosophys" on the idea but it seems to me pyramiding down would have a less "shock" to the system.

... just sproutin' out ideas.

 

[ninesecz]

how much lean muscle did you gain through this cycle???

 

[Triple J]

i think you should wait at least a couple months after the last progestin (deca/tren) use, i also like the idea of a taper, say finish with an oral at a low dose

 

[boston789]

Tapering off does nothing. You stop and go right into HCG/nolva/clomid. You're gonna have to keep the doses higher than most because you've been on for so long.
I'd do HCG 750-1000ius ed for about 3-4 weeks.
I'd do Clomid at 100mg ed for the first 2 weeks and then do 50mg ed for the next 3-4 weeks
I'd also do nolva at 2-40mg ed for about a month and a half.

 

[boops]

if your doing longer acting esters and taking a full years worth they will self taper on their own (after you stop injecting due to half lives) as you would have built up quite a level in the blood/body....just gonna take some time to get everything back to where it should be....i have done it after being on for a full year with just nolvadex (maybe not my best option but in the end in worked)......

 

[Nighthawkk]

how much lean muscle did you gain through this cycle???

So far 16lbs or so while using mostly AIFM and/or nolvadex thoroughout. Right now I'm just cruising on enanth and dbol and still gaining strength, though mass is coming more slowly.

boston789- Your PCT looks similar to what I will probably do, thanks for the input. The HCG dosing will be crucial, and I usually do a minimum of 3 weeks clomid combined with nolvadex going on for 6-8 more weeks @ 40mg. I think I will actually also use AIFM as well.

triplej- youre right about using lower doses toward the end, I will probably try to end on short-acting AAS