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truckdaddy
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HEy guys, i have my 1mg of IGF-1. It came with AA and BW. Can i use the BW only?
Reconstituting my IGF-1 with BW only.
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truckdaddy
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I just read that i should not put the BW in the IGF.
tell me if this sounds right.
If i put 1 CC of the AA in my igf-1, in a 1 cc slin pin, every5 marks will be 50mcgs? Sound right? Will the AA sting much at that mixture?
thnaks
tell me if this sounds right.
If i put 1 CC of the AA in my igf-1, in a 1 cc slin pin, every5 marks will be 50mcgs? Sound right? Will the AA sting much at that mixture?
thnaks
Kingfeade2
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You will want to mix the IGF with the acid....then draw back the amount you want then fill the rest of the needle with the water to lesson the sting. If you are mixing 1mg or 1000 mcg with 2ml of AA then 10 units 50mcgs if you dilute with 1ml of AA than 5 units is 50 mcgs. That might burn so, i would draw the 5 units and than fill the rest of the needle with BA....draw in a bubble so u can let the solution mix than TAKE THE BUBBLE OUT lol...and you should feel great....let me know how that goes
truckdaddy
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hmmm......so i should use 1 cc of the AA? How bad will hurt without the BW?
Kingfeade2
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truckdaddy said:
yea 1cc thats 1mg i think, wont be too bad...do you not like BW or something
NYBodyguard
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BW is just fine dont complicate something really simple
truckdaddy
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I have no problem with BW, i was told IGF-1 will not stay good for long in BW....your saying to use the BW and dont worry about the AA?
truckdaddy
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NYBodyguard
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no joking people here make stuff up and its getting stupid, spoke to two people who do this for a living BW is just fine
a few things
a) if you use good stuff that came in powder form (as everything else is junk) you wont have any pain what so ever, its like saying you get pain from a HCG or GH shot
b) if everyone in fact uses 60-100mcg a day most legit come in 100mcg vials why care how long it will stay stable if you use the whole thing that day or the very next
sheep follow sheep people repeat what they read elsewhere with no rhyme or reason
a few things
a) if you use good stuff that came in powder form (as everything else is junk) you wont have any pain what so ever, its like saying you get pain from a HCG or GH shot
b) if everyone in fact uses 60-100mcg a day most legit come in 100mcg vials why care how long it will stay stable if you use the whole thing that day or the very next
sheep follow sheep people repeat what they read elsewhere with no rhyme or reason
iron asylum
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What if your stuff comes in a 1000mcg vial? I'm suppose to get 4-5 weeks out of it. Will the BW stay good for that long if its in the fridge at all times?
bac water can be used in the 10 x 100 kits. AA is needed to preserve the peptide. in bac water alone IGF will only last 3 days, making it unsuitable for reconstituting a 1MG vial of IGF.
bac water really should not be used at all. NACL is the proper dilutent. IGF requires a very specific PH environment to survive. a .6% AA solution is the perfect environment. the dilution with bac water alters the environment and will do SLIGHT damage to the peptide in depot....emphisis on slight.
chaos
bac water really should not be used at all. NACL is the proper dilutent. IGF requires a very specific PH environment to survive. a .6% AA solution is the perfect environment. the dilution with bac water alters the environment and will do SLIGHT damage to the peptide in depot....emphisis on slight.
chaos
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truckdaddy
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I have the AA and the NACL and it still burned for 30min....
While it is true that some one can use BW, Acetic acid is the approved diluent. Go to www.gropep.com, click LongR3 and read up. You will see that they hold the patent for LongR3, which is the igf-1 everyone should be using, and that reconstitution is done with AA to the tune of 1mL/mg.NYBodyguard said:
Now I remember reading a long time ago that Dave Palumbo said that AA was ideal, but BW could be used in a pinch as long as it was kept cold. Whether or not you consider him to be an expert, is up to you. Whether your lr3 is a chinese generic or come from GroPep, AA is the proper stuff.
Inject 10 units of AA mixed lr3 in your body w/o buffering it with sodium chloride and see how much you enjoy it. I guarantee you wont be doing it for long. Besides the pain, there is tissue damage at the inject site. BW does not cut it. Comparing an injection of a peptide mixed with acid and a peptide mixed with BW (gh) is assinine.
So there you go.
truckdaddy
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I mixed the AA and the sodium chloride and then put it in the IGF bottle....is my IGF still good and for how long?
Kingfeade2
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AA and NACL makes water....3 days
truckdaddy
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this is what i found on OL
This post only refers to reconstituting IGF powder pucks in 1mg strength vials, not premixed. If premixed follow the instructions of your source. This recipe is to accurately and safely reconstitute powder igf into a stable liquid ready for direct injection.
The percentage strength of your AA is really necessary. Just saying its AA is not like saying its just BA. Pure AA will eat your flesh. There are various pharm strengths but they all have to be VERY dilluted. White Vinegar is usually 5% standard AA so we will go with that equation.
If its 5% you need to take around 1/8 of a ml of vinegar and 7/8 ml of .09 Sodium Chloride per ml, all in the same syringe then slowly add this solution to you IGF. IGF will also hold better in 2ml to 3ml of solution better than 1ml due to delicate peptides not being stable in solutions less than 1ml per 1mg. This will bring you close to 100nM strength of AA that gropep uses. There is no need to draw your water separately unless your IGF came premixed. In that case follow your sources recommendation.
For anyone that wants to tell ya different just explain to them that most white vinegar is pure AA diluted with 95% water
If the vinegar is fermented then it gets even worse, besides water there's aldehydes, ketones, fusel oils (higher alcohols), phenol derivatives, and esters. No matter how you slice it the AA your putting into the syringe already has water in it.
SOOOO does water hurt your IGF if there is proper ratio of AA already provided, NO, NO and NO.
With that formula its so simple, so easy. Just squirt the AA mixture which takes 15 seconds to mix right into the igf vial. Then draw out your 50mcgs after each workout and enjoy. With a 2ml solution 50mcgs pulls to the 10 mark on the syringe.
This post only refers to reconstituting IGF powder pucks in 1mg strength vials, not premixed. If premixed follow the instructions of your source. This recipe is to accurately and safely reconstitute powder igf into a stable liquid ready for direct injection.
The percentage strength of your AA is really necessary. Just saying its AA is not like saying its just BA. Pure AA will eat your flesh. There are various pharm strengths but they all have to be VERY dilluted. White Vinegar is usually 5% standard AA so we will go with that equation.
If its 5% you need to take around 1/8 of a ml of vinegar and 7/8 ml of .09 Sodium Chloride per ml, all in the same syringe then slowly add this solution to you IGF. IGF will also hold better in 2ml to 3ml of solution better than 1ml due to delicate peptides not being stable in solutions less than 1ml per 1mg. This will bring you close to 100nM strength of AA that gropep uses. There is no need to draw your water separately unless your IGF came premixed. In that case follow your sources recommendation.
For anyone that wants to tell ya different just explain to them that most white vinegar is pure AA diluted with 95% water
If the vinegar is fermented then it gets even worse, besides water there's aldehydes, ketones, fusel oils (higher alcohols), phenol derivatives, and esters. No matter how you slice it the AA your putting into the syringe already has water in it.
SOOOO does water hurt your IGF if there is proper ratio of AA already provided, NO, NO and NO.
With that formula its so simple, so easy. Just squirt the AA mixture which takes 15 seconds to mix right into the igf vial. Then draw out your 50mcgs after each workout and enjoy. With a 2ml solution 50mcgs pulls to the 10 mark on the syringe.
truckdaddy
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we shall see
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