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very bad mon cheri, Rec drugs tend to dehydrate your body, your muscles and you are working on building these, rec drugs work against all the hard work you've put into your body. Aside from the elevated heart rate from the AAS (expecially clen) and then to do E which will also elevate Heart Rate, not good idea
drrman
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Well its not a good idea no, but its been done by many many people man. I've been to NPC after parties and seen some well known bodybuilders so f'd up on E, blow and G they can't even say their names. Its not smart and not something he should do often, and its not good on his heart but its not going to kill him. I wouldn't worry about the aas as much as the clen.
I know back in college i stayed juiced up pretty much my entire college career and i partied pretty hard quite a few weekends in there. Was it smart....likely not, did it kill me....no
I know back in college i stayed juiced up pretty much my entire college career and i partied pretty hard quite a few weekends in there. Was it smart....likely not, did it kill me....no
BigCracker
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How old is he? Is he a fat bastard? Smoker? These factors will influence just how risky this endeavor might be. I know you're not supposed to mix ephedrine w/ "E"-because the amphetamine like qualities could cause a stroke. I imagine clen would offer the same risks-but I think it stays in your system longer than ephedrine-meaning even on the days you don't take clen it could still be in your system and create complications when mixed with "E". I'm no Dr, I just pretend to be one sometimes and I'm usually right. With that being said, there's still a chance he won't have any probs. I've seen peeps survive way worse combos. Just hope what he gets is legit "E" and not LSD/Meth/heroin or a combo of all 4-then it's a real crapshoot.
Now I just can't wait for the self-righteous guys that take AS and point the finger at rec drug users as if they're losers to start flaming. This subject always stirs the pot.
Now I just can't wait for the self-righteous guys that take AS and point the finger at rec drug users as if they're losers to start flaming. This subject always stirs the pot.
Trojan Horse
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Are you asking for yourself but implying it's for a friend? Either way, if they are adults, let them make their own descision cause they will anyways. It's a risky and dangerous drug, period.
eliteforce
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just don't make the x a habit because I did a few of them, just 1 a month or so and then i started to notice depression, like I started feeling depressed for no reason..once I cut them out completly the depression slowly went away and now I don't get it anymore..I havn't had one for more than 3 years now and never get depression..
organon250
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hey bro take it from an experienced rec drug user in the past stay clean drink a few beers have a few shots but let the e alone its by far and away one of the most toxic drugs around as far as brain damage and other harmful sides go's.
Trojan Horse
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All of the following a VERY Bad:
Rock Cocaine
Heroin/Blows snort or inject
Methamphetamine
Ecstasy a.k.a. MDMA
None of the above have anything to do with "Elite Fitness" in my opinion.
More like a sure decline towards an "elite mess".
Rock Cocaine
Heroin/Blows snort or inject
Methamphetamine
Ecstasy a.k.a. MDMA
None of the above have anything to do with "Elite Fitness" in my opinion.
More like a sure decline towards an "elite mess".
BigCracker
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drrman said:
Sounds like you've done some extensive roller research. lol I didn't think anyone took ecstacy anymore-but I've had 3 people approach me this week looking for it. Strangely enough, they were all gym people. Pictures of fitness and health-every one of em. lol
Trojan Horse
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Yea, let them take it for a while and you'll see a gradual change for sure. It may not be as quick as meth or heron or crack but it will cause a metamorphasis.
drrman
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BigCracker said:
LMAO......i did back in my day for sure. I haven't touched it in years but i'll promise you if mixing E and steroids would "probably" kill you i'd have been dead FOR SURE 8-10 years ago.
And yes, back in the late 90's almost everyone i partied with was in EXTREMELY good shape, probably half were on juice and worked a full time job but they would let it all loose on saturday night. I never seen any of them die either...........Now im not promoting this or saying its a "good" idea, but i think its comical people say its "likely" or "probably" going to kill him
also i'll note the E 8-10 years ago was much MUCH purer than the shit now. Not adulterated with meth, DXM, pcp or ephedrine. Now days who knows what might be in that tab
jagerbombme
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organon250 said:
could have a toke too of the pot
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ALIN
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dr_skier said:
VERY, VERY BAD IDEA!
Is it a good thing? Definitely not, but when your very lean and in a dieted state a few weeks before a show it sure will make you look good the next morning secondary to the dehydration. Freaky vasculature. I partied with Pro BB'er CC and other top amatures, they would never drink alcohol but they surely would roll there asses off. But i don't condone it. It definitely raises the body temp making you more thermogenic not to mention all that cardio from bouncing off the walls dancing all night long.
BigCracker
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nisser512 said:
What about highly toxic AS like tren, A-50, and Halotestin??? Are using these compounds considered respectful??? People find recreational drug use so offensive-yet when it comes to their drug of choice like AS, they act as if it's somehow above criticism. To the avg person poking your ass with a needle ranks way higher on the loser-o-meter than drinking,snorting, smoking, or popping a pill.
BigCracker
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nisser512 said:
What purpose? Swell you up to make you feel better about yourself???
Making you "Feel better" sounds an awful lot like what recreational drugs do.
If roids made you shrink and feel worse, would you still take them???
Seriously, besides maybe attracting chicks, what purpose does gaining 10 lbs serve other than making you feel good when you look in the mirror? Unless you're a pro athlete or trying to become one, what purpose does AS serve other than ultimately feeding your ego???
The way I see it is everyone has their vices and I have no business judging people for what they do. By me slamming some guy for dropping E, I'm no different than the pencilneck that slams me for for being juiced. Do I think my lifestyle choices are superior? Of course, but that doesn't make me any better or worse than anyone else. People should be able to do whatever the fuck that they want without getting flipped shit from others that may have a different idea of what they want out of life. Too bad more AS users don't feel the same way ass I do. Maybe we wouldn't get stereotyped as being arrogant assholes so often?
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off_safety
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drrman said:
no shit, bro. i miss the way x used to be. its almost good that it happened, but when it started getting all tweaky and dilluted, i totally got turn off of it. ah the good ole days. *sheds tear*
Whoops, opened up that slightly ironic rec drug use vs. AAS usage opinion showdown. I really just wanted to know how to explain the drug interactions with extacy. I've read that article about blow and tesoterone and heart attacks, not cool at all. However as far as someone partying on the weekend, there are newbies using growth/slin/dnp/tren etc. Knowedge is everyones took but to each their own and people need to make their own decisions in life i guess.... good moaral to this story is that my buddy ended up coming out for a few drinks and didn't do any drugs.
scout69
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E is not good but I have done upwards of 20-25 pills through out a few day span in my hey day while on and still have had no problems actually the best esults I ever got from a cuting cycle i was useing E heavy, But some people could react different..In no way am I saying do the E just giveing you my experience
gautho said:
I was going to say the same thing.. Taking xtc while dieting for a show, sure makes you look amazing! Im not condoning this either by any means, but I have known of a few friends who took xtc specifically for this purpose, and wow, vascularity is amazing.. Im a 'retired' xtc user, I have a very high tolerance for the stuff.. dont take this with clen whatsoever.. Dehydration factor is quite extreme, and you could easily kill yourself.. drrman made some good points too, the xtc today is not the same as it was in the late 90s.. Lots of it, isnt even mdma or mda, its dxm, caffeine, etc.. I actually did some about 3-4 weeks ago, and I wont use it again ever.. Its not the same anymore, and I hate how I feel the next few days.. Not worth it!!!
www.dancesafe.org Best site about X and other drugs.. They even have a lab tester. I know, because I used to send pills in, till they started charging like $100/test..
Sassy69
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From an interaction standpoint I think its just bad to be looking for 'party drugs' that explicitly have no contraindications w/ various AAS so you can have "something" to party with. I think that party drugs become more attractive to the cycler or competitor because booze will obviusoly scew up a diet immediately. So then you start looking for something else. X dries you out, G actually had a sort of place in the 'bodybuilder's' regimen as a recovery aid. And they all make going out great. So its sort of like the question about is it ok to have "a beer or two" over a special date / event while in the middle of a cycle -- it won't kill you if you do it once or twice. It may inhibit optimum results of the cycle a bit if you can live w/ that. Same w/ the party drugs. I just wouldn't make it a habit.
But just common sense says to pay attention to the known 'sides' of the party drugs - particularly the dehydration. Basically if you know the 'common' sides of all the stuff you are on, use your common sense as to what you can expect to encounter and where the effects are cumulative.
But just common sense says to pay attention to the known 'sides' of the party drugs - particularly the dehydration. Basically if you know the 'common' sides of all the stuff you are on, use your common sense as to what you can expect to encounter and where the effects are cumulative.
BigCracker
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I snort Fig Newtons during cycle with no adverse reactions. I'm hardore up in dis piece tho.
1Mistake2006
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drrman said:
Would people with no idea please stop giving info?? With REAL MDMA you have to worry about being hydrated. The amount of MDMA required for morbidity is something like 125 pills in one night. DRR is right...most of these top pros take so much shit its crazy. The death rate of real MDMA is so low that its not even on the CDC's illegal drug death reports.(<5%) The elevated heart rate is no worse than doing mild cardio. It does not put holes in your brain. The funny thing is that its acts similiar to Zoloft and Paxil. SSRIs keep your serotonin at a stable level and MDMA releases it all at once..Studies have shown too much MDMA CAN cause temporary neuron damage BUT they've been shown to regenerate themselves after the user stops. Is it safe to mix clen and X...its a risk but it won't kill you. If you really want to roll then don't take clen for 1-2 days so it would have a diminshed effect.
One more thing: all the studies the govt used to get MDMA a class I were ALL discredited..The Dr Ricauture studies were done using methamphetimine NOT MDMA..He accidentally used meth...yeah ok...He even had to print a retraction of these studies in Science Magazine and on national TV. Same way the govt banned cocaine and weed because "made blacks rape white women" and turned them into animals.Propaganda...
No drug is safe my friend but there are smart ways to use if you so chose
J
ps I got a 6yr prison bid for MDMA so I know EVERYTHING about this drug. I've personally spoken with Dr Julie Holland,Dr Sanders(rip my friend) and the God father A Shulgin
pitbullrocco
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pick one.
he can either work towards achieving his goals or work against it. choice. A. or B.
he can either work towards achieving his goals or work against it. choice. A. or B.
BigCracker
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I got these cheeseburgers man...Anyone got any fig newtons? I'll suck yer dick!!!
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ItalianMuscle27 See you in a week.
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