FatherMike
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Anybody hear of the brand name loeffler? I have some test with a cat and dog on the front 10ml bottle with a yellow top? anybody know about this or is it fake. I was told it was sust. 
can I still make some decent gains off of this sust? I am also going to stack with deca and d-bol.ryan04 said:Yes, Loeffler makes a sust. It's definately not top of the line and is comparable to Tornel's sust (SuperTest).
that sucks man! Sorry you had bad luck hopefully mine is better. Thanks for the advice though I appreciate it man. K for youbruce410 said:god i hate doing this, isn't the bottle got some red on it. is this product callled testosterona 4LA which is sust. if so i used it. was supposed to go with my deca for 12 weeks but it made me so damn sick i had to quit at 5 weeks. i hope you have better luck if you try it, but that is some weak stuff not mention it makes you sick. sorry bro i am just very upset with loeffler their products are not good especially for humans
Thanks man, appreciate your help !!ryan04 said:I've never used Loeffler, but I used Tornel Supertest, which is the same thing for my first cycle and had awesome gains along with deca and d-bol (30 lbs). Both are notorious for being underdosed.
However, if I were you I would do the following: At worst, the Loeffler could be underdosed by 25%. Therefore, make up for it by taking a little more. For example, if you're planning on doing 500 mgs a week, do 625 instead. I personally don't think you can go wrong by doing 750 mgs of any kind of test a week, underdosed "mex-crap" or not.
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