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[genarr3]

This was posted on the anabolic board, I'm gonna post it over here to see if the select crew has some insight on the subject.

orginally posted by bigPimp

here is what happened to me today

i got up this morning and felt fine
i get ready and go to work, as i am driving to work i notice that i am a little dizzy but then it goes away, then just as i get out of my car, i get this feeling like i got hit in the chest with a sledgehammer, all of a sudden my body gets cold to the touch and my forehead starts sweating like Niagra Falls, my vision goes all blurry and then i black out, the next thing i remember ,i am in the hospital with all these fucking wires hooked up to me.
about 10 min later a nurse comes in and starts asking me all these questions..
then they hook me up to an EKG and the test comes back fine as if nothing happened..the nurse actually said i was in perfect health...i was there for a couple hours with no idea of why this transpired....all they did was give me some meds and told me i could go home......WTF, has anyone ever experienced this.
oh and by the way, the only gear i am using is 1cc of sus a week and 50-60mg dbol ed
i dont know if the steroids are the cause, because i have done a gram a week and 150mg a day and never experienced anything like this....any ideas?


my response:
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I had the same thing happen to me one week ago today. In my case I was driving, and the f'n asshole cops gave me a, "DWI - Drugs" ticket and my car is impounded at the moment. I wasn't on anything, and have the blood work to prove it. I was out for about 12 hours and like you woke up in the hospital. You didn't say, but in my case I have no memory of the episode at all. I don't know what caused it, I'm going to a lot of doctors, but I suspect some of them think I'm trying to dream up a defense for the DWI. I have been experiencing some pretty severe anxiety lately and I think it was a kind of panic attack.
Good luck bro, I hope you are ok.
Genarr3

 

[gymtime]

This is PURELY a guess, but what you both describe sounds to me like an anxiety attack. Never had one, but I know some who have and they describe it in much the same way.

 

[bouncer]

After reading just the first few lines I'm with Gymtime. I had something similar, but not as bad around 1989 after returning home from a very rough mission to south Lebanon with the U.N.

Bouncer

 

[George Spellwin]

It sounds like anxiety too. Did you feel like you might suffocate?

 

[spentagn]

A friend of mine who does a lot of coke and x (and whatever else he can get ahold of) had one a couple weeks ago. He didn't pass out, but called an ambulance, and the docs said he was fine. It does sound like anxiety to me.

 

[genarr3]

First, thanks for the replies.
Second, I don't have any memory of the episode. I mean none. The only way I have to know what happened is what I've been told. My last memory is getting home from work and then I remember waking up in the hospital the next day. I'm missing almost 24 hours.

 

[gymtime]

Well, what was your stress level like at the time?

 

[genarr3]

Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly do you mean by, "stress level"? If this is an actual medical test I have no idea I wasn't given one. If you mean how much stress there was in my life at the time there really was nothing major going on. The anxiety I was feeling (and still am) has no basis in reality. It's just there.

 

[gymtime]

Medical test? Hardly. From what I understand, these things happen to people going through higher than normal shit in their lives; death in the family, loss of job, money problems, that kind of thing.

If nothing like that's going on, could be chemical imbalance, bad diet, who knows. You might PM musclebrains. He's pretty good with this stuff.

 

[liftsiron]

You need some more follow up bro, what was your BP? You may have under lying heart problems that do not show up on a ekg. I would cut out the d-bol until you know what's up. Are you using eca or t-3?

 

[barnes3]

could be anxiety or epilepcy..

I, personally, am epilecptic. For those of you who do not know what that means it means that I am prone to have seizures. I haven't had one for two years running know and I hope that it stays that way. The first one I had was 7 years ago, my freshman year of high school. I got up on a normal basis as I did every day at my military high school in IN. Went to take a shower and got sweaty.. blah blah blah. Woke up in a hospital several hours later, my drill sergeant and councilor standing over me saying that I was coming too. Well That is pretty much all I remember of the day. The doctors too first thought that I had an anxiety attack, a real bad one. But these blacking out and having seizures kept on. Every year around the same time. But anyways, the point of the story is that you never know for sure what it is, so go get checked out bro....

later
barnes3

 

[genarr3]

Thanks for the replies.
My BP is normal, I've had it checked so many times in the past week I have an indentation of the cuff on my arm. My diet is clean. I'm not taking dBol, I'm not on anything.

Yes, I'm getting it checked out. I have appointments with a Nero, Cardio, and Psych doc.
I'm 37. Would that be kind of old to discover I was epileptic?
I'm starting to think I'm on the fast track to SSRI land. Anybody know how that mixes with gear?

 

[barnes3]

Thanks for the replies.
My BP is normal, I've had it checked so many times in the past week I have an indentation of the cuff on my arm. My diet is clean. I'm not taking dBol, I'm not on anything.

Yes, I'm getting it checked out. I have appointments with a Nero, Cardio, and Psych doc.
I'm 37. Would that be kind of old to discover I was epileptic?
I'm starting to think I'm on the fast track to SSRI land. Anybody know how that mixes with gear?

No, 37 is not to old, not to scare you or anything. It is mostly genetic, but there have been cases that have been induced by head injuries. For instance, my grandfather was hit in the head by a golf ball from a player trying to play through the hole, he was 48. I believe that mine were induced by head injuries because I can not tell you how many time when I was young I had to have stitches in my head . But is all good... I have learned to live with it. And as far as gear goes, I just do my research and ask questions about other people personal experiece with it, like what side effects, ect. and everything to make sure that nothing is going to happen. If anything, I believe because of gear I have not had one in two years. Gear has made me take better care of my body, makes me eat right. Because I don't want to be like some of my friends that have taken gear and it backfire on them. If I am going to do it, them I am going to do it all the way diet, supplements, ect. or not do it all!

peace

barnes3

 

[Superfrk]

You said you were eating clean, I am hypoglycemic and when my blood suger drops to fast I have had similar experience, Never passed out but have come close, if i am sitting down and relaxing I do not notice it that much and then when I stand up I get light headed and yes cold, not saying that you are hypo just saying that your sugar levels might have gotten to low, It is just one of many posible things that could have happend

 

[bigpimp]

You said you were eating clean, I am hypoglycemic and when my blood suger drops to fast I have had similar experience, Never passed out but have come close, if i am sitting down and relaxing I do not notice it that much and then when I stand up I get light headed and yes cold, not saying that you are hypo just saying that your sugar levels might have gotten to low, It is just one of many posible things that could have happend

i have wondered this many times.....whether or not i am hypoglycemic....its possible thats why it happened

 

[liftsiron]

At the beginning of the post you stated that you are on 50 to 60mg of d-bol a day and sust, later in the post you state that your on nothing, please clarify this.

 

[bigpimp]

At the beginning of the post you stated that you are on 50 to 60mg of d-bol a day and sust, later in the post you state that your on nothing, please clarify this.

because he quoted me....the post was originally made by me
and i am taking the dbol

 

[liftsiron]

Man am I bad, that's what I get for staying up past my bedtime. This thread sparked my interest because I had a series of similiar symptoms as the two of you. All my bloodwork was real good my EKG looked good although not perfect. Still I had peroids of weakness,dizzyness and shortness of breath. One morning I woke up almost unable to breathe, I went to the ER. My lungs had filled with fluid. I was sent to see a cardiologist, I had an echocadiogram and my ejection fraction was down to 15%. That's less than 25% of normal, barely enough to substain life. What had happened was that scar tissue had developed in my heart from the flu virus that I had nearly two years ago, I almost died at the time. To make a long story short, I'm now on heart meds for the rest of my life. I'm back to working out pretty good and have my sights set on two april bodybuilding shows next season. I can never use eca and clen or t-3 to cut ever agin. One point that I want to make is that the EKG turned up nothing when I had life threathing problems, my BP at the time was 110 over 70 but dropped to 70 over 60 when they gave me lasix to get rid of the water in my lungs. Also I have never, even on cycle had high blood pressure over 140/85. I feel real good, but if I hadn't found out what was wrong when I did, I may be dead now.

 

[genarr3]

Sorry to hear about your situation. I hope it doesn't effect your training too much. I have recently come back from the doc and he thinks I have a slight bruise on my brain. I have to go for further tests.
And he put me on Elavil and I can't say I've felt this good in a long time. I might even start answering my phone calls umongst other things. It's nice to feel normal again. Anybody know have Elavil will affect my gear use?

 

[barnes3]

Elavil

No, but I know where you can post that would be able to help you. I have a friend that is a member at www.internation-medicine.net and he posted about my meds, and there seems to be alot of Doctor type on the board there. Just a thought thou...

later
barnes3

 

[genarr3]

Thanks bro, I'd give you karma but they won't let me.

 

[liftsiron]

Some sides of elavil include gyno, HBP due to fluid retention, hair loss and changes in sex drive. Also I would not do any 17aa drugs as elavil is somewhat toxic to the liver. These were listed along with other side effects in the PDR, that doesn't mean that you will develop any. But by the sides that I pointed out I would think that elavil may have some testosterone lowering or estrogen raising effects. This however is just an assumption on my part. A little gear my very well nulify some of the sides. Just moniter the bp.

 

[barnes3]

Thanks bro, I'd give you karma but they won't let me.

Oh well, it is the thought that counts bro, I will always have a karma in my profile from you (jk )

liftsiron- PDR, could you elaborate what it stands for??


barnes3

 

[liftsiron]

PDR= Physicians' Desk Reference